Brexit Thread

**Husar** · 03-16-2017, 12:12

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Wilders was doomed when every other party made a pact against him, still it didnt stop his party gaining 5 seats while the winning VVD lost 8 and Labour crashed and burned by losing 29. Puts him in the position to become leader of the opposition, or the dutch equivalent anyway.

Better hope the VVD can turn things around in it's 3+ party coalition.

Why?
Essentially you're saying the government lost 37 seats and the vast majority of those voters did not go to Wilders, who only gained 4 seats of those 37. If we're to believe the article, the idea of Wilders even motivated a lot of people to go and vote against him. The VVD doesn't have to turn anything around as long as Wilders cannot find partners for a coalition or get 50% of the vote himself. Maybe the next government would just include the VVD as a junior partner with a completely different party taking the main stage. That party may prove itself in the upcoming coalition if they can find one.

**Greyblades** · 03-16-2017, 17:13

I do not imagine for a second that the people's distaste for wilders will outweight the dismay of the top 3-4 alternatives continuing the political direction that resulted in the gutting of the dutch labour party.

Wilders is where UKIP was in 2015, if his main appeal is not usurped by a more competent party or made irrelevant by a radical change in situation his party will keep growing until he has the majority.

**Gilrandir** · 03-30-2017, 15:02

A new referendum is imminent?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39422747

**Idaho** · 03-30-2017, 15:35

Can't get it to show... Ignore.

**Elmetiacos** · 03-30-2017, 17:30

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

A new referendum is imminent?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39422747

Now depending on how far each side is prepared to go with brinkmanship, this could be where the proverbial hits the fan.

**Kagemusha** · 03-30-2017, 19:25

Apparently UK will not allow the referendum to take place before the Brexit is concluded. Such might play to the hand of the Scottish separatists.

**Husar** · 03-30-2017, 21:25

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 03-30-2017, 23:01

Originally Posted by Husar

I made the point a while ago that posting a video on its own should be seen as spam.

Who is this and what debate was this? I assume it was something related to Junker's proposals

It seems he cannot tell the difference between the EU and Europe, and if the subtitles are correct he cannot tell the difference between the British and the English, either.

Also - his cleaving to "Europe" appears to be motivated primarily by fear of the "Other" and a siege mentality.