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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Well, I confess I didn't quite understand it.

    In any case, there will be no negotiation, we negotiated and held a Referendum on "joint sovereignty", 99% voted in favour of the status quo.

    It has not been a "non issue" since then, though. Last summer the Spanish started carrying our prohibitively long checks at the border, forcing people to wait for hours in their overheating cars and Spanish Navy ships frequently violate Gibraltarn waters.
    This was before or after 23.06.2017? Dont you understand. You had a platform in EU where this kind of issues were easy to settle, but you decided to walk out from it, because of various reasons. You are now reaping what you sow and this is just a one issue. I surely hope your reasoning for Brexit will offer you more then what you are about to loose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    It's like with the Argentinians and the Falklands, except with ten times the British Citizens involved.
    So you want to fight the Spanish over it?
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    Giving up Gibraltar is a small price to pay, nothing is going to really change except cutting of a human traffic route, 'refugees' are Spain's problem if it's Spanish territory, pure win if you look at it pragmatically
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Giving up Gibraltar is a small price to pay, nothing is going to really change except cutting of a human traffic route, 'refugees' are Spain's problem if it's Spanish territory, pure win if you look at it pragmatically
    You sound like the neolibs more and more. "(Whatever) is a small price to pay for upholding these theories, as I'm not the one who has to pay it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    You sound like the neolibs more and more. "(Whatever) is a small price to pay for upholding these theories, as I'm not the one who has to pay it."
    It's all a game and giving up Gilbraltar would be a queen-sacrifice

    It's perfect, you gave up a disputed territory, you would have done enough to feed the wolves, stfu very please what more do you want???? Forces in the EU want to punish you brits you know that, they don't want other net-payers to stop paying their comfortable bliss

    I prefer neo-machi btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It's all a game and giving up Gilbraltar would be a queen-sacrifice

    It's perfect, you gave up a disputed territory, you would have done enough to feed the wolves, stfu very please

    I prefer neo-machi btw
    Again, it's the British who are paying the price, not you. To you it is a game, as you're not among those who have to face the consequences. Just like when the neolibs instructed Yeltsin to tear his country apart with no social backup, just to see how their theories play out in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Again, it's the British who are paying the price, not you. To you it is a game, as you're not among those who have to face the consequences. Just like when the neolibs instructed Yeltsin to tear his country apart with no social backup, just to see how their theories play out in the real world.
    Of course tbe Dutch are going to feel the consquences, as a net-payer we are going to cough up even more to pay their despot-paradise. You have gained a lot be happy, a brexit just about reduces tarrifs from countries outside the EU with more than a little bit, the UK can make associations as they see fit, and neglect all imposed rules of that atrocious cancer that is the EU. I am so glad the UK did what it did, the Dutch love the Brits but will always obey others and I hope that stops from now, especially if the Brexit turns out to be a very very good decision. The EU is not a free market youknow, it's a protected one. It makes no sense for the UK to be part of it, half or so of your trade is gone because of tarrifs out of the Brussel-zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Of course tbe Dutch are going to feel the consquences, as a net-payer we are going to cough up even more to pay their despot-paradise. You have gained a lot be happy, a brexit just about reduces tarrifs from countries outside the EU with more than a little bit, the UK can make associations as they see fit, and neglect all imposed rules of that atrocious cancer that is the EU. I am so glad the UK did what it did, the Dutch love the Brits but will always obey others and I hope that stops from now, especially if the Brexit turns out to be a very very good decision. The EU is not a free market youknow, it's a protected one. It makes no sense for the UK to be part of it, half or so of your trade is gone because of tarrifs out of the Brussel-zone
    So leaving a bigger market and becoming a smaller will guarantee one better trade terms? Sorry but world does not work that way. Larger the market, better terms it can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Giving up Gibraltar is a small price to pay, nothing is going to really change except cutting of a human traffic route, 'refugees' are Spain's problem if it's Spanish territory, pure win if you look at it pragmatically
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    You sound like the neolibs more and more. "(Whatever) is a small price to pay for upholding these theories, as I'm not the one who has to pay it."
    Next thing Fragony is gonna say is "Scotland/Northern Ireland is a small price for being free from Brussels".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Next thing Fragony is gonna say is "Scotland/Northern Ireland is a small price for being free from Brussels".
    No I will just say that your country already has been sacrificed, you can't say I didn't tell you that it would be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No I will just say that your country already has been sacrificed, you can't say I didn't tell you that it would be
    You mean Ukraine was sacrificed to Russia so that the UK could exit the EU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    You mean Ukraine was sacrificed to Russia so that the UK could exit the EU?
    No I'am saying that you are fucked, I can go alll Pillatus on what's commingfor you very soon

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