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    I completed my first 'world conquest' game last night as Germany, and it was overall an enjoyable experience I'd say with a few exceptions. I took the Netherlands early because taking their rubber and oil in Indonesia is extremely useful, since Germany doesn't have either handy. The Soviets declared war on Poland, I was playing ahistorical so they claimed Eastern Poland, so I invited Poland into my faction and together we crushed the Soviets and Romania who joined the Comintern. Italy declared war on Greece and brought the Allies into the war, but weird stuff happened with France. Their color had turned the lighter blue of the French Commune, but they were fully democratic. I took France went through the Maginot Line and turned towards Yugoslavia and Greece and knocked them both out, but left Italy to deal with Africa with the exception that I helped take the Suez and Gibraltar. America joined the war and tried to invade Africa, but failed because AI Italy had 800+ divisions spread across Africa and Asia.

    By this point the only major powers left were UK, America, and British Raj against my faction of Italy, Japan, Nationalist Spain, Finland, Poland, Belgium, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico, and a few other minor nations. Trying to invade Britain through the English Channel was impossible because each time they would drop thousands of bombers and CAS into the channel and apparently having 8000+ fighters to their meager amount (a few hundred) means all my convoys sink. I eventually invaded through Ireland and Scotland to knock them out of the war. I couped both America and British Raj with astounding success, then knocking out both in short order afterwards. I enjoyed the game immensely, but the game has brought to light a few glaring issues to me.

    1. I think bombers, cas, and naval bombers are far more effective than they should be. It doesn't make sense when I have overwhelming air superiority that they can easily drop a bunch of those planes into and area and destroy my ships then leave only having lost a few hundred planes. I've lost so many ships to naval bombers just striking ports that I honestly hate having to build ships in this game honestly. An Italy game I played my huge navy was destroyed in port by British naval bombers when I controlled the skies around the area. I don't know if anyone else has had similar experiences, but it is just extremely annoying.

    2. The AI does not seem to understand supply at all from what I've seen. Going to fight the British Raj the Italians and Japanese had stacked hundreds of troops along the narrow border that I could do nothing against them. Massive attrition and organization loss when going anywhere near the border. I eventually just couped them and sailed troops into the new land.

    3. I went down the befriend Scandinavia NF tree and had no intention of going to war with any of them, no justifying or anything like that, and they all joined the Allies, with the exception of Norway and Finland who joined me when the Soviets declared war on them. It left me extremely confused for them to join the allies for seemingly no reason outside of world tension I guess.

    Sorry for the long reply, but just wanted to get my thoughts down and see if others were experiencing the same things. Overall, in my opinion the game is extremely fun, especially trying to take a minor nation and make them a world power.
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    I have to admit Im not overly impressed. Im finding it a long hard learning curve.
    I hated HOI3, and almost straight away went back to my trusted Hoi2. Which I understand and enjoy. For Hoi to Hoi2 was an easy conversion, almost zero learning time.
    Ive tried quite a few times to give 4 a go, but im struggling with it, and again i find myself going back to 2.
    Im struggling with air combat, and putting generals in armies. I can move my armies about easily enough but dislike the 'theater' idea, or should i say i dont understand the theater idea.
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    For the moment I'm still sticking with HoI 3, purchased two more DLC packs with the Paradox weekend the other day, so I'm aiming to finish HoI 3 first, at least a campaign with an easier faction like Great Britain, before I delve in the depth of HoI IV. 4

    That being said, I hope they do keep the Field Marshall Edition still on order because it has a ton of extras. Including future expansions.
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    Now that this has been out for some time - and even for the first time I believe on sale on Steam - how's it working?
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    I really should pick it up again, I had a blast over the summer when I played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    I really should pick it up again, I had a blast over the summer when I played.
    Same here, I enjoyed it a lot over the summer. Haven't played since they patched it, plus the steam reviews for the expansion were pretty negative iirc.
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    So I picked it up again, and played a good bit as Greece again. Maintained neutrality for the longest time until it got boring (around 1943 I think). Waged a bloody war with Italy for control of the Balkans. And then I staged an invasion of Italy with a massive paratroop drop. In the end Italy capitulated which was awesome for me. But here is the biggest problem with the game- once I beat Italy to a pulp, there was no way to try to end the war as I was at war with Germany and Japan. I mean all I really wanted in the end was to have control of the Balkans. Why bother with having specific war goals if the only thing that matters in the end is the total capitulation of the enemy? Especially since Italy was part of the Axis, I also had to fight Germany and Japan. I could deal with fighting Germany, it was dealing with Japan that sucked. Greece is hardly a naval power so now I am basically in a never ending war as I dont really have the capability to send forces overseas to fight them.
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