Mass Shooting in Orlando become's USA's worst.

[Fragony]

Yes you'd like that wouldn't you, only problem is that it isn't. Read the letter by the father at Gawker before they take it down.

yeah I really like this, love pointing fingers. 50 innocent dead people don't bother me if it suits my anti-muslim agenda

Just because you would never do such a thing doesn't mean that there is no such a thing as islamic terrorism.

[CrossLOPER]

there is no such a thing as islamic terrorism.

The point is that pretty much any nutcake can get a gun, go into a public area, and have about ten minutes to absolutely go nuts before the first wave of police arrive. They can proclaim allegiance to Mickey Mouse, the bodies will still be there.

In a number of western countries that are more used to peace than war, outside war and inside living memory (hence talking about post-WW1), the biggest massacres have been perpetrated by Islamist terrorists. AFAIK they hold the record in the UK, US, France and Spain. In the UK, incidents with smaller body counts led to the restriction of firearms. They were spaced a decade apart, yet they and their signature laws are still remembered. In 2005, the 7/7 attack and another similar attack with the same MO were spaced a few weeks apart. The first killed 50+, while we were lucky the devices in the second attack malfunctioned. There was one in Scotland around the same time as well. And those are the ones that are publicly known and that I can remember offhand. NB. I've discounted the ones with melee weapons, as they don't involve the same kind of sudden mass killing as the other examples.

Post statistics.

[Pannonian]

The point is that pretty much any nutcake can get a gun, go into a public area, and have about ten minutes to absolutely go nuts before the first wave of police arrive. They can proclaim allegiance to Mickey Mouse, the bodies will still be there.

Post statistics.

9/11 was the biggest ever terrorist attack in the US, with a body count of 2000+.
7/7 was the biggest ever terrorist attack in the UK, with 50+ dead.
The Madrid train bombing in 2004 was the biggest ever terrorist attack in Spain with 100+ dead.
I don't know of any comparable size terrorist attack in France, but the 2015 Paris attack produced 100+ dead.

Are those stats wrong? Did I miss any bigger attacks than those listed?

[Greyblades]

I don't know of any comparable size terrorist attack in France.

Insert robespierre joke here.

[AE Bravo]

yeah I really like this, love pointing fingers. 50 innocent dead people don't bother me if it suits my anti-muslim agenda

Just because you would never do such a thing doesn't mean that there is no such a thing as islamic terrorism.

He's a self-hating bigot who was apparently a closet gay man with a profile in a gay dating app. Yet, he's still an "islamic terrorist" to you because he says so, even though his own father refutes that.

If every troubled shithead that comes from a Muslim family does something, and enables you to attribute the whole thing to your Islam boogeyman fantasy than I can't stop your obsession with strangling Islam rather than finding a proper solution.

Good luck, keep on fighting the good fight!

[Fragony]

He's a self-hating bigot who was apparently a closet gay man with a profile in a gay dating app. Yet, he's still an "islamic terrorist" to you because he says so, even though his own father refutes that.

If every troubled shithead that comes from a Muslim family does something, and enables you to attribute the whole thing to your Islam boogeyman fantasy than I can't stop your obsession with strangling Islam rather than finding a proper solution.

Good luck, keep on fighting the good fight!

At least he isn't the only one who's in denial.

Gay sites/bars are a recruiting place for IS by the way, to show your worth.

[AE Bravo]

Check your closet for IS too.

[Fragony]

Check your closet for IS too.

sigh, beating up a gay is an initiating requirement, that's why they are on gay sites and in gay bars

[AE Bravo]

sigh, beating up a gay is an initiating requirement, that's why they are on gay sites and in gay bars

You don't think it's a possibility that he was one himself and tried to overcompensate? Maybe he hated himself and IS thoughts were making him feel better about himself. He probably hated the clubgoers for living truthfully unlike him, who's too scared to come out the closet.

[Fragony]

You don't think it's a possibility that he was one himself and tried to overcompensate? Maybe he hated himself and IS thoughts were making him feel better about himself. He probably hated the clubgoers for living truthfully unlike him, who's too scared to come out the closet.

If I had a dad like him I would be as well, check his youtube channel. No, it just is what it is. I fully understand that most muslims would never harm anyone, and I am not asking from muslims to reject things like this because that's unfair, but there IS a problem with islam in the west. And everywhere where it is really.

[Fragony]

He's a self-hating bigot who was apparently a closet gay man with a profile in a gay dating app. Yet, he's still an "islamic terrorist" to you because he says so, even though his own father refutes that.

If every troubled shithead that comes from a Muslim family does something, and enables you to attribute the whole thing to your Islam boogeyman fantasy than I can't stop your obsession with strangling Islam rather than finding a proper solution.

Good luck, keep on fighting the good fight!

In hindsight now that more is clear, you were probably right

[Gilrandir]

Believing in an omnipotant all-creator who guides all creation and sets strict moral standards under threat of eternal agony can make you do strange things.

The opposite is also true: believing that there is no ultimate punishment from an omnipotent all-creator for whatever you might do can make you do strange things. Conclusion: if you are prone to do strange things you will do them and it doesn't matter how you justify them.

[CrossLOPER]

The opposite is also true: believing that there is no ultimate punishment from an omnipotent all-creator for whatever you might do can make you do strange things. Conclusion: if you are prone to do strange things you will do them and it doesn't matter how you justify them.

Well, there is this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-the-shooter/

I wonder, what they would be doing if they were not so pious?

[AE Bravo]

In hindsight now that more is clear, you were probably right

Just to clarify, I'm not absolving religion entirely. Upbringing is a huge part of mental health, and his upbringing was pretty f'ed up to say the least. His father was as conservative as they come despite not encouraging violence.

At the end of the day though, it comes down to his own demented state.

[Fragony]

Just to clarify, I'm not absolving religion entirely. Upbringing is a huge part of mental health, and his upbringing was pretty f'ed up to say the least. His father was as conservative as they come despite not encouraging violence.

At the end of the day though, it comes down to his own demented state.

I shouldn't have just dismissed you that was wrong of me my apoligies for that. But maybe I am not wrong, terrorists blend in, it is never someone who wears a beard who does something horrible here, the most vicious attacks are from muslims who appear to be very modern, basicly agents. How to deal with that, no idea, it's just something to get used to imo, it's here and we are here. It will lose becausr it has the negative perk of not being able to shock no matter how horrifying.