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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Looks like it failed. Which would be a shame. Turkey is no ally, only the military is

    Over 1500 soldiers arrested
    29 colonels
    5 generals

    Turkish police must be the best in the world, can I say false flag
    In the end the military was undone by a number of factors I think:

    Reduced Kemalist faction, lack of general support among the populace and a general unwillingness of the military to shoot civilians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    In the end the military was undone by a number of factors I think:

    Reduced Kemalist faction, lack of general support among the populace and a general unwillingness of the military to shoot civilians.
    One of the reasons Napoleon came to prominence was supposedly his willingness to use artillery against civilians. Civilian resistance doesn't amount to much when the other side are willing to wheel out and use large calibre firepower.

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    Reading about more and more people saying that it may have been orchestrated by Erdogan to emerge even stronger.
    Tonight I still dismissed that as a silly conspiracy but somehow today I also wouldn't put it beyond him. I guess one may get clues by looking at how he proceeds now. The coup seems to have failed by now and some say it was badly planned. Erdogan called it a "present from god" that allows him to "clean the military" faster. Even if it wasn't staged, the fact that he won it may do even more terrible things to his ego.....
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    I rarely support coups against elected officials but in Turkey's case, army is the protector of Ataturk's legacy.

    This means Turkey will devolve into a full presidential dictatorship with strong islamist leanings.

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    There we go, the great Turkish reshuffling has already begun:

    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...ved-from-duty/

    Broadcaster NTV, citing a decision by the High Council of Judges and Prosecutors, said 2,745 judges had been removed in total.

    The Anadolu news agency reported that five members of Turkey's high judiciary board Hysk had also been removed.
    Twitter is already big on the rumor side, have to say it does not seem so outlandish anymore. As I said, we'll see what he does when he wins...
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    Pity. A military coup certainly isn't the best choice to change a government, but in Turkey's case it has always been a sure way to keep the country on (or lead back to) the kemalist path - which is something that should be in the center of Europe's interest when it comes to Turkey.
    Reading the events in reverse, the fact that there has been a coup means Turkey is on the verge of leaving said path (or has already done so).

    As far as the "staged coup" theories go - I wouldn't put it beyond him either.
    The internet has already produced this:

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    The hell did the judges do to deserve dismissal?
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