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    Of course they want it. They are given a number of choices and asked to vote for the one they want the most. They have been conditioned to think that those are the only valid choices, and they have to pick between them. They are not given any other option.
    Of course they were given options. That's why the Tories were known as the nasty party during Blair's time (to quote the then Tory chairman), until they started paying attention to Labour's territory of government services. The Tories veered towards US Republican territory, and the British voters wanted none of it.

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    Of course they were given options. That's why the Tories were known as the nasty party during Blair's time (to quote the then Tory chairman), until they started paying attention to Labour's territory of government services. The Tories veered towards US Republican territory, and the British voters wanted none of it.
    I admit that Britain politically does have more free thought and more of a choice than the rest of Europe. They are almost a bastard mix of European and American with their political ideology. Where in continental Europe is anyone given any choice at all?
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    I admit that Britain politically does have more free thought and more of a choice than the rest of Europe. They are almost a bastard mix of European and American with their political ideology.
    Sadly the whole wolf whistle hate speech thing might lose us that staus, or at least in nottingham. Still, at least it is nowhere near the german level of free speech violations.

    At the trial, Peter M. defended his remarks online and said: “One can not even express a critical opinion of refugees without getting labelled as a Nazi. I wanted to create a discussion forum where you can speak your mind about refugees.” Peter M. talked about how, in his role as an administrator of the group, he would weed out any pro-Nazi or radical remarks and delete such posts but since Facebook had deleted the page he couldn’t present the evidence to the court.

    The judge in the case was unforgiving in his verdict on the site saying that “the description of the group is a series of generalisations with a clear right-wing background”. After sentencing Peter M. to a nine month suspended prison sentence and his wife to a fine of €1,200 the judge said: “I hope you understand the seriousness of the situation. If you sit in front of me again, you will end up in jail.”
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    I admit that Britain politically does have more free thought and more of a choice than the rest of Europe. They are almost a bastard mix of European and American with their political ideology. Where in continental Europe is anyone given any choice at all?
    Goodness knows about the continentals, except that there is more of a leftist verge among the bigger countries. However, here is the quote I mentioned.

    "There's a lot we need to do in this party of ours. Our base is too narrow and so, occasionally, are our sympathies. You know what some people call us – the Nasty Party."

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    I just want someone who tells me what to do and gives me money when I don't want to do it.


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    Write in, vote third party, do whatever seems to have the best chance to succeed as we get closer to election day. Do NOT choose evil. There will be no going back if we let them trick us into doing this.
    I would vote that (mind it, it is both for the US and the UK):
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    Donald Trump is definitely no socialist. Bernie Sanders I might agree with, but not the rest. Please don't use the Fox News political definitions.
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