hello

[Legs]

Why is it lowering the tone of the backroom to post quotes that are already in that forum?
If it acceptable for people to post that racist crap there in the first place why is it wrong to quote them?

[Beskar]

You were being highly antagonistic in your responses and personally attacking other members of the Backroom.

This included many inferences such as calling members Andres Brevik and saying suggesting they are going to form lynch mobs to shoot-up muslims and black people.

This is not criticizing arguments you felt were racist, nor contributing in an acceptable manner.

[Legs]

I quoted other people on the forum who were comparing him to Breivik because of his ideological/conspiracy theory posts, and I quoted him saying he was going out to beat up immigrants.
Since the material I used is already on the forum how is it unacceptable to post it on the forum?

[Beskar]

They were not quotes you were using.

It wasn't within the quote formatting and nor did I see the member you are accusing saying those things. I only saw you say those things.

I did see the member express dismay at their own attitudes over 5 years ago. But if you are really going to dreg up ancient forum history to attack someone now, that is very low blow either way.

[Legs]

They were not quotes you were using.

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bullshit. a quote is a quote

But if you are really going to dreg up ancient forum history to attack someone now, that is very low either way.

It is to establish a pattern. linking previous posts with current post to counter the denial of the nature of the current posts.

[Beskar]

Are you incredibly stupid?
Now, this above statement looks like that I am personally insulting you. But for clarification purposes, it was directly quoting from the thread. Being presented like this, it has no context at all about where I am bringing this example from. Obviously, I am making this clear in my example, because I am not the type of person who needs to resort to personally attacking people. But there is difficulty in trying to read a distorted post, where you are randomly using these "quotes" jumbled up with your own statements attacking another forum member.

Your presentation style is clearly antagonistic, and honestly, this should have happened sooner. Approximately two threads have been cleaned, one locked, and one deleted, all due to your responses and incitement. The Backroom whilst covering topics which are more prone to these sorts of replies/behaviours, doesn't condone such a toxic atmosphere. If you want to retort these base arguments and aggression, then I recommend engaging those types of discussions on forums which facilitate that attitude and atmosphere.

[Legs]

Well it has been deleted so I'm not in plain sight anymore phew. There are no more than 10 minutes that is roughly how long the interview is. And it isn't there.

Why do you tolerate such obvious blatent liars on this forum?
The moderator who deleted the interview in question did so because of a comment about a holocaust denier at the 40 minute mark. pretty impossible for an interviewee to make a comment at the 40 minute mark in a 10 minute interview isn't it.

[Legs]

The main reason I come here and not elsewhere is because we are allowed to discuss political issue without being interfered by mods using thier powers to suppress a political viewpoint. The deletion is an extreme overreaction and if this is a sign of a change in the way this board is moderated then I am leaving.

Interesting.
Wanting to be discussing a political issue while flatly denying the both nature and the content of the issue in question.

[Axalon]

Man, you are fighting a losing battle...

You will achieve little here, and its not because you are necessarily wrong or some such. "Right and Wrong" has traditionally never been a strong suit of this place. It won't matter. Think rather in terms of "convenient" and "inconvenient" for the site in general, and its agents/representatives in particular - and then you will better understand how this place functions, a lot better. And yeah it may totally suck, but that's the way how things are.

Other then that, an integral part of making quotes is to clearly declare whom you are quoting, and from where. You fail at both in both your posts right here. Its no point posting a supposed quote here or elsewhere if you don't bother declaring exactly whom you are quoting, and from where. If you don't, it is basically just something that you want have the looks of a quote, as to serve some end. Get my drift?

Anyhow, do something else with your time and end up a lot happier man.
Like play some new game, explore a mod or something...

- A

[Legs]

Man, you are fighting a losing battle...

You will achieve little here, and its not because you are necessarily wrong or some such. "Right and Wrong" has traditionally never been a strong suit of this place. It won't matter. Think rather in terms of "convenient" and "inconvenient" for the site in general, and its agents/representatives in particular - and then you will better understand how this place functions, a lot better. And yeah it may totally suck, but that's the way how things are.

Other then that, an integral part of making quotes is to clearly declare whom you are quoting, and from where. You fail at both in both your posts right here. Its no point posting a supposed quote here or elsewhere if you don't bother declaring exactly whom you are quoting, and from where. If you don't, it is basically just something that you want have the looks of a quote, as to serve some end. Get my drift?

Anyhow, do something else with your time and end up a lot happier man.
Like play some new game, explore a mod or something...

- A

Are the moderators and admin that useless on this forum?
I understand that the particular moderator who deleted the video may have several million personal reasons to delete the neo nazi crap which two people were choosing to defend. But why allow those two to flatly lie about the political viewpoint without taking any action

[Legs]

Personally I blame the parents , they must have done a really bad job to mananage to raise such habitual liars

[Legs]

Levels of censorship on here are distinctly orwellian.
To quote Greyblades seems apt...."Cut out a man's tounge you do not prove him wrong, you prove you are scared of what he has to say."

[Husar]

People asked for Orwellian censorship, the Moderators try to deliver.
The customer is always king.

Since you're good at forum searches, you may be able to find the threads where people complained that moderation was too lax for a while.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't and all that.

[Beskar]

I merged three topics which were identical into this one.

[Legs]

There can't, you have to find other people to have a civil discourse with I guess.

So you say there cannot be civil discourse with people who are habitual liars, yet hand out infractions for not having civil discourse.

People asked for Orwellian censorship, the Moderators try to deliver.
The customer is always king.

Since you're good at forum searches, you may be able to find the threads where people complained that moderation was too lax for a while.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't and all that.

Since the customer is always king then you will be satisftying this customers requests about people constantly repeating claims which are knowingly false, right?

[Husar]

So you say there cannot be civil discourse with people who are habitual liars, yet hand out infractions for not having civil discourse.

You forget the two other options:
a) the civil talking-to-a-wall
b) the civil not-having-a-discourse

There is noone who forces you to break the forum rules.

Since the customer is always king then you will be satisftying this customers requests about people constantly repeating claims which are knowingly false, right?

The customer is only a customer as long as he agrees to the Terms of Service, in this case called the forum rules.
Repeating claims does not violate forum rules, aggressive behavior does.
I'm well aware that it can be frustrating if the other side seems to just repeat arguments, I moved on to either just stopping the discussion or having fun with it in non-aggressive ways.

[Legs]

I merged three topics which were identical into this one.

Is that true?
Also, are you omitting something there?