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**Legs** · 08-27-2016, 03:35

The main reason I come here and not elsewhere is because we are allowed to discuss political issue without being interfered by mods using thier powers to suppress a political viewpoint. The deletion is an extreme overreaction and if this is a sign of a change in the way this board is moderated then I am leaving.

Interesting.
Wanting to be discussing a political issue while flatly denying the both nature and the content of the issue in question.

**Axalon** · 08-27-2016, 11:39

Man, you are fighting a losing battle...

You will achieve little here, and its not because you are necessarily wrong or some such. "Right and Wrong" has traditionally never been a strong suit of this place. It won't matter. Think rather in terms of "convenient" and "inconvenient" for the site in general, and its agents/representatives in particular - and then you will better understand how this place functions, a lot better. And yeah it may totally suck, but that's the way how things are.

Other then that, an integral part of making quotes is to clearly declare whom you are quoting, and from where. You fail at both in both your posts right here. Its no point posting a supposed quote here or elsewhere if you don't bother declaring exactly whom you are quoting, and from where. If you don't, it is basically just something that you want have the looks of a quote, as to serve some end. Get my drift?

Anyhow, do something else with your time and end up a lot happier man.
Like play some new game, explore a mod or something...

- A

**Legs** · 08-27-2016, 13:10

Originally Posted by Axalon

Man, you are fighting a losing battle...

You will achieve little here, and its not because you are necessarily wrong or some such. "Right and Wrong" has traditionally never been a strong suit of this place. It won't matter. Think rather in terms of "convenient" and "inconvenient" for the site in general, and its agents/representatives in particular - and then you will better understand how this place functions, a lot better. And yeah it may totally suck, but that's the way how things are.

Other then that, an integral part of making quotes is to clearly declare whom you are quoting, and from where. You fail at both in both your posts right here. Its no point posting a supposed quote here or elsewhere if you don't bother declaring exactly whom you are quoting, and from where. If you don't, it is basically just something that you want have the looks of a quote, as to serve some end. Get my drift?

Anyhow, do something else with your time and end up a lot happier man.
Like play some new game, explore a mod or something...

- A

Are the moderators and admin that useless on this forum?
I understand that the particular moderator who deleted the video may have several million personal reasons to delete the neo nazi crap which two people were choosing to defend. But why allow those two to flatly lie about the political viewpoint without taking any action

**Legs** · 08-27-2016, 13:11

Personally I blame the parents , they must have done a really bad job to mananage to raise such habitual liars

**Beskar** · 08-27-2016, 16:05

Moderators are not there to verify or factcheck every statement in a post. It is for those in the discussion to do that themselves, arguing why that is the case. The moderators are only there to provide an area for civil discourse. It is not the place of the moderator to simply shutdown someones post because they agree/disagree with it, that makes a bad moderator.

As such, insulting other patrons willynilly and accusing their parents of doing a really bad job would receives moderator attention on yourself due to lack of civility. Imagine you are at a restaurant with a few work colleagues, and in a discussion, you get up, shouting and insulting them. The restaurant manager would come along and ask you to leave, because you are disrupting the place.

This is what I believe Axalon is talking about, Moderators don't enforce right or wrong, they enforce civility and good conduct.

**Legs** · 08-27-2016, 16:59

Originally Posted by Beskar

The moderators are only there to provide an area for civil discourse.

How can there be civil discourse when the response consists of simply repeating such obvious lies?

It is not the place of the moderator to simply shutdown someones post because they agree/disagree with it

I disagreed with the moderators choice to delete the link, but I understand it, I also understanfd that there are legal issues concerning promotion of nazi ideology and denial of crimes against humanity(which covers the holocaust denial).

Moderators don't enforce right or wrong, they enforce civility and good conduct

Civility and good conduct would cover things like honesty and integrity wouldn't it, so where was the civility and good conduct on the part of those defending that neo nazi scum?

**Legs** · 08-27-2016, 22:07

Funny stuff eh? After claiming the reference was not present we now get this.

Principle aside this was an overreaction, a 5 second reference by a noted crazy in an 100 minute interview with said crazy does not make it a video promoting holocaust denial and deleting it is the same type of kneejerk overreaction by local authority that I posted the video to criticize.

Now since the "crazy" recomended the "historian" as source material to explain the basis of his political ideology how is it not promoting holocaust denial?