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    Default Re: Is Political Arrogance dragging Europe to the Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Britain gave up on taxation in kind decades ago (1960), with the exception of jury service.
    Elaborate. Given your mention of jury duty*, I suspect you're referring to some kind of mandated community service.

    I'm not willing to include that under the umbrella of "taxation" - an automatic obligation barring specific exclusion is not what I am considering here, nor something like military conscription.

    For example, in the Soviet Union students (all levels) were regularly rotated through "voluntary" agricultural service in which they would supplement kolkhoz labor by picking fruits and such. This is indeed a "task", but simple substitution of time or performance of menial activities is of little use to modern governments and is categorically not my proposal. If that needs systematic facilitation at all, then at best keep it an unrelated sort of duty at the municipal or even public-school level (as is common now). Importantly, involvement in such things is typically an expense and effort for governments, as it was for the Soviets and their agri labor. These activities weren't designed as a way (loosely speaking) to extract value for the state as tax does, but to specifically regiment the lives of citizens as a matter of social policy (in ideological terms, to expose urban youth to rural conditions). Now, most countries have mandatory attendance in education for legal minors. That should not be considered a tax either. I hope I'm being clear.
    Last edited by Montmorency; 09-10-2016 at 10:45.
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