Org Promotion

[ReluctantSamurai]

Alright, so we do have a couple of members who support the revamping of the index fora. How do proceed further with this? How do we discuss with the whole community site-wide about this?

As with any worthwhile endeavor, a plan should be laid down. Making changes without a specific purpose in mind rarely leads to success. Having said that, it's obvious that two events need to happen: a) the need to attract, and keep new members; b) the need to get current members not active to want to participate again. I think the latter is just as important as the former because currently less than 1% of our registered membership post here (I'd still be curious as to why that is)

The Org will never be like it was in the early 2000's when it was the big dog on the block. Times have changed. But it would be refreshing, at the least, to see us have a posting day like 18 Jan 2011 when there were 681 members online and participating somewhere on the Org.

[edyzmedieval]

Getting back to the 2000's is a big task.

However, given that the excitement of a new historical TW will greatly interest many people, especially those who have played TW for the first time because of Warhammer, we can get to very good levels of membership.

So - how do we proceed?

[Monk]

Idea - In anticipation of the new Total War, historical TW title, we could do the following - contact CA and ask for a relative time frame that can be shared only with forum elders, in order to keep the secrecy. Based on that relative timeframe, the admins and mods of the Org can work with us to ensure a new "look" and strategy for the Org in anticipation of the new TW release.

Thoughts?

Getting back to the 2000's is a big task.

However, given that the excitement of a new historical TW will greatly interest many people, especially those who have played TW for the first time because of Warhammer, we can get to very good levels of membership.

So - how do we proceed?

I think the CA discussion should be shelved for now. Especially while posts like this are okay and stay up: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053714727

i believe our energy would be best focused inward.

[Axalon]

So - how do we proceed?

Short-term index-wise... First of all...

Decide if we shall use/have a...

• Chronological order of TW-games (first game first - STW1) or...
• Reversed-chronological order (last game first - WaTW or possibly AtTW) of the same (this is the most commonly used).

Either we set up a poll, or a thread or something whatever were folks can declare which order they prefer (it could be here too, if folks like). We could set a dead-line for a week (or something), and the order that got the most support wins = gets applied. After that is decided (in whatever fashion)... Start applying the basic model (below) to every game and sort out the details on specific sub-fora later and continuously restructure such things later if the need arises, or clearly warranted and/or advantageous etc. etc. For now sort them in the place that they arguably belongs the most...

All off-topic stuff could for instance temporarily be sorted in 1 section during the transition (or permanently), placed wherever (yeah, I don't really care). That can be sorted out later - its clearly secondary to the actual purpose of this site, after all. And, it should not be allowed to serve as yet another excuse to delay this process any further... We have waited for too long on this as it is. Org-central/administration section can be placed first on the index (which makes solid sense). Then we go...


TW-game1 - section (individual)
-General Area & Discussion (sub-section)
-- Multiplayer (sub-fora)
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Modding Area & Discussion
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Hosted Mod (if any. Sub-section omitted otherwise)
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Tech Help Area (sub-section)
--whatever sub-fora it needs, max 6 (If any)

TW-game2 - section (individual)
-General Area & Discussion (sub-section)
-- Multiplayer (sub-fora)
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Modding Area & Discussion
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Hosted Mod (if any. Sub-section omitted otherwise)
--Whatever sub-fora it needs/has, max 6 (If any)
-Tech Help Area
--whatever sub-fora it needs, max 6 (If any)

Etc. etc. until we run out of TW-games... (and yeah, Arena is out by default.)

Then, whatever else... Off-topic stuff or something.

Then, end of index. Essentially done...

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Then, all the fine-tuning begins.... Now you guys can bicker about the details
of sub-fora left and right etc. Names on stuff etc. If so desired.... Besides it
will be much easier to spot such things at this stage and to discuss it....

Some general definitions that can come in handy here:
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Hosted mod = Generally active (somehow) and/or actively supported, and recognized as such. All other mods not recognized as such should be sorted differently. As in...

Functional mod = A functional and playable mod - it can be played to reasonable extents by a third party, it works - yet formally abandoned and/or unsupported. Sorted as such in a specific sub-fora as per relevant game. Or...

Incomplete mod = A non-functional and unfinished mod - it can not be played to reasonable extents by a third party, it do not work/start - formally abandoned. Sorted as such in a specific sub-fora as per relevant game.

This is to cut down the horde of abandoned (possibly functional or non-functional) stuff for especially RTW1 and MTW2 on the index, and also some stuff for other games too MTW1 and ETW etc. Sorted as per the definitions above. Relocate it all into a suitable sub-fora under the "Modding Area & Discussion"-subsection as per TW-game. Such places could be called "Playable mods archive/library" or something. "Mods cemetary/junkyard - incomplete ad non-functional mods" or some such...

That's all I can think of on this note, for the moment...

- A

[Axalon]

That being said, let's look at our options...

I'll get to commenting this stuff eventually... I hope... In general, it wouldn't hurt if folks here could help Edyz with
additional ideas or something, or at least commenting on that and other stuff already brought to "the table" here.

Remember folks, with zero input/effort follows as much output/results - yup, zero... Every time....

- A

[AntiDamascus]

I may be the minority but but holy crap would a ton of forums and sub-forums for each game would annoy me to no end. I have almost all the TW games but I don't see what that would accomplish other that spread out low activity even more. To tell the truth I would come here more for the sense of community and second for the TW info. I can get a lot of that info almost anywhere in the low case I want up to date info on Rome 1 (not likely). The reason I keep fading out is because the places that were busy for me (The Backroom) were/are borderline toxic.

[Axalon]

I may be the minority but but holy crap would a ton of forums and sub-forums for each game would annoy me to no end. I have almost all the TW games but I don't see what that would accomplish other that spread out low activity even more. To tell the truth I would come here more for the sense of community and second for the TW info. I can get a lot of that info almost anywhere in the low case I want up to date info on Rome 1 (not likely). The reason I keep fading out is because the places that were busy for me (The Backroom) were/are borderline toxic.

Oh for **** sake, another... In short... We have tried your damned way already, and it did not work.
It has ended up in a ******* disaster for the site. There are less people active here then ever. It has
ended up that way BECAUSE the likes of you have had it your way.


Additional text, for the interested:

There is difference between us... The things I strive for, ALLOWS you ALL your backroom and off-topic blabla while still ALSO provides me with the things I am interested in full. Everyone essentially gets what they actually want, it enables and affords that for all, as we then CAN tailor that index just as we like - you can implode all TW-sections to the stone-age if you like, its your headache... Now, the thing you strive for essentially robs me of the stuff that I am actually interested in, by dismantling it down to dysfunctional and ridiculous levels (as is also reflected in the current traffic-levels), while it ONLY provides you with what you are interested in full. See the difference? Its a huge one, and it annoys the hell out of me, that I have to explain this to the likes of you.

I will ALWAYS be against what you advocate as it simply does not afford me, or my interests, in its results - and it kills the site in general as well, as if the first circumstance was not sufficiently bad enough on its own. It don't get any better by the fact that the place is actually called "totalwar.org" and not "privatesocialclub.org". And, if it had been the latter, then you may have had a case - but as it is, you don't - as its still called "totalwar.org", and providing sections for all TW-games on such a site is natural. The fact that site-management dismantled them all in the first place - much for the likes of you - now that certainly is unnatural for a site like this one... And obviously, this site has paid accordingly for that.

- A