Climate Change Thread

[Husar]

Denmark has 5.6 million inhabitants, Norway is similar and I think is shown with 98% or thereabouts in Wikipedia.

What I find more impressive is when countries with 50 million or more inhabitants reach 50%+ renewable electric energy.
Helps if they have some industry as well. And even then it probably doesn't mean all their cars run on renewable energy.

WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO!

[Sigurd]

WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO!

This... it is the question we really should focus on. What are you doing to help the climate?

Complaining about those around us is counter productive. Scolding, berating or complaining about people's "normal life" is destroying the planet, creates opposition and anti-movements. They we need to be led by carrot to a better way of living reducing our negative imprint on the environment.

When we start to do small things - it will not individually matter much globally - but we are pack animals and will follow those who lead.
Here there is an explosion in the electric car marked. It started with the eco-fundies and then the government followed up with carrots (free parking, free ferries, free road tolls, allowed to drive in public transport lanes etc.) then Tesla and increased road tolls and temporary ban of diesel cars on winter days...
I have discarded my diesel for an e-golf and charge it at home with waterfall based energy.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

This... it is the question we really should focus on. What are you doing to help the climate?

Complaining about those around us is counter productive. Scolding, berating or complaining about people's "normal life" is destroying the planet, creates opposition and anti-movements. They we need to be led by carrot to a better way of living reducing our negative imprint on the environment.

When we start to do small things - it will not individually matter much globally - but we are pack animals and will follow those who lead.
Here there is an explosion in the electric car marked. It started with the eco-fundies and then the government followed up with carrots (free parking, free ferries, free road tolls, allowed to drive in public transport lanes etc.) then Tesla and increased road tolls and temporary ban of diesel cars on winter days...
I have discarded my diesel for an e-golf and charge it at home with waterfall based energy.

Cannot fault you on the "practicing what you preach" scale, can I?

[Sigurd]

Cannot fault you on the "practicing what you preach" scale, can I?

sitting on the high horse is so un-norwegian, but I think I am on the right track. You can do small things, like choosing a power vendor which claim they are not importing dirty coal power and only supply power from the water-based powerplants.
We can't all be eco fundies - which builds their eco houses with solar-panels and ground heat pumps, growing peat on their roofs and a small generator in the stream that flows through their property. Small things will help locally - you get better air in the cities for the asthmatics.

We all know about the elephant in the glass house - the industrializing of 3rd world or former 3rd world nations. And the experts are having difficulties coming up with lasting solutions - solutions which are utopic? Herding populations into super cities which are completely self sufficient, so you can utilize the surrounding land for agriculture and CO2 absorbing plants will generate opposition. People we just don't like leaving our comfort.

Here some conspiracy for you:
What would need to be done if you wanted to save the world right now? If you were forced to find a solution to stop all pollution (globally) right now/yesterday, what would be the necessary steps?

[Pannonian]

sitting on the high horse is so un-norwegian, but I think I am on the right track. You can do small things, like choosing a power vendor which claim they are not importing dirty coal power and only supply power from the water-based powerplants.
We can't all be eco fundies - which builds their eco houses with solar-panels and ground heat pumps, growing peat on their roofs and a small generator in the stream that flows through their property. Small things will help locally - you get better air in the cities for the asthmatics.

We all know about the elephant in the glass house - the industrializing of 3rd world or former 3rd world nations. And the experts are having difficulties coming up with lasting solutions - solutions which are utopic? Herding populations into super cities which are completely self sufficient, so you can utilize the surrounding land for agriculture and CO2 absorbing plants will generate opposition. People we just don't like leaving our comfort.

Here some conspiracy for you:
What would need to be done if you wanted to save the world right now? If you were forced to find a solution to stop all pollution (globally) right now/yesterday, what would be the necessary steps?

The most direct and effective solution is to end humanity.

[Sigurd]

The most direct and effective solution is to end humanity.

What if you had to include the survival of humanity and at the same time making sure the future generation had a platform of sustainable development?

[Pannonian]

What if you had to include the survival of humanity and at the same time making sure the future generation had a platform of sustainable development?

Planned economy, whilst minimising footprint.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The most direct and effective solution is to end humanity.

Current events suggest that much of humankind has already dispensed with humanity.