Climate Change Thread

[HopAlongBunny]

So what if the ocean warms up a little?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...aths-1.3976332

Might be nice if you want to go for a swim...not so good if your food disappears.

[Beskar]

Yeah, sourcing Daily Mail is funny, even Wikipedia (of all) says it is terrible and banned it, thus causing a world war between the pair of them. Probably for another thread, but popcorn is ready.

[Montmorency]

Best place to put this on short notice:

Northern California has seen relief this winter of its drought and water scarcity, but now there's just too much and the Oroville dam area is being evacuated in anticipation of uncontrolled spill from rising water levels.

http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...htmlstory.html
https://livestream.com/KRCR/events/3724366

[a completely inoffensive name]

Best place to put this on short notice:

Northern California has seen relief this winter of its drought and water scarcity, but now there's just too much and the Oroville dam area is being evacuated in anticipation of uncontrolled spill from rising water levels.

http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...htmlstory.html
https://livestream.com/KRCR/events/3724366

It was not too long ago I was visiting the site of the Saint Francis Dam (look it up). California's water infrastructure is more vulnerable than most care to realize. I am sure large portions of civil engineering text books came from California's mistakes.

Oroville is relatively modern (1968) compared to some I visit on a regular basis (Mulholland Dam). What confuses me is the politicization of this I see on the internet.

There really is no testing of these kind of spillways unless you somehow wanted to waste millions of gallons of water just to overflow a dam. The only real issue to pay attention to was the failure of the concrete main spillway.
But this just goes back to what we have learned many times over, we have no money for our own infrastructure, but tens of billions to build Iraq's.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...There really is no testing of these kind of spillways unless you somehow wanted to waste millions of gallons of water just to overflow a dam. The only real issue to pay attention to was the failure of the concrete main spillway. But this just goes back to what we have learned many times over, we have no money for our own infrastructure, but tens of billions to build Iraq's.

That last sentence could have been written by candidate Trump.

[Husar]

That last sentence could have been written by candidate Trump.

Or anyone really, apart from the Iraq reference perhaps.
Maybe Trump should just raze such threatened dams in light of the new oil pipelines that will be ready soon. Just put an oil power plant there.

[a completely inoffensive name]

That last sentence could have been written by candidate Trump.

And you know what? He wasn't wrong when it came to Iraq.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

And you know what? He wasn't wrong when it came to Iraq.

I did not say he was....merely noted the coincidence.

[Tristuskhan]

But this just goes back to what we have learned many times over, we have no money for our own infrastructure, but tens of billions to build Iraq's.

Tens of billions to destroy Iraqi infrastructures (twice!), then tens of billions to rebuid it. Damn Iraqis, obviously.

[Montmorency]

There really is no testing of these kind of spillways unless you somehow wanted to waste millions of gallons of water just to overflow a dam. The only real issue to pay attention to was the failure of the concrete main spillway.
But this just goes back to what we have learned many times over, we have no money for our own infrastructure, but tens of billions to build Iraq's.

I've seen a claim that Oroville was originally a dam designed for power generation and that in recent years it was redesignated as primarily a reservoir. Meaning that it was permitted to regularly tolerate a water level higher than specified for, and the main spillway was regularly employed when it was only meant and built for emergencies.

[Shaka_Khan]

My grandfather feels a big difference in the climate from when he was young to the climate nowadays. He mentions it every time winter comes. The winters are definitely warmer when we look at the long term.

[Gilrandir]

My grandfather feels a big difference in the climate from when he was young to the climate nowadays. He mentions it every time winter comes. The winters are definitely warmer when we look at the long term.

I'm not THAT old, but the winters I can remember with certainty from my childhood were definitely colder than those we have now.