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    I do find this site to be interesting.
    https://climate.nasa.gov/images-of-change
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    I dislike Scott Pruitt and coal.
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    I wonder if america could sustain the coal industry by only using the coal to make oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I wonder if america could sustain the coal industry by only using the coal to make oil.
    Not a chance. The process is too costly compared to oil-sands and fracking.
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    What are these people thinking? Do they hate their own children so much?
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    Killing the Clean Power Plan turns out to be difficult; good thing the EPA has nothung but money to spend on the process:

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...just-starting/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I dislike Scott Pruitt and coal.
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    Yeah... on second thought, the US is actually not out of the agreement. Unless they want to break international law.

    The Paris Agreement stipulates that a member cannot get out of the agreement until after 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
    Yeah... on second thought, the US is actually not out of the agreement. Unless they want to break international law.

    The Paris Agreement stipulates that a member cannot get out of the agreement until after 4 years.
    Good point, but I believe for now the admin has only ceased (or is planning to end) compliance with the non-binding elements of the treaty which the US has undertaken to date.
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    Obama not passing the pledge past congress has come to bite him in the ass, as it was not put through congress trump can pull out without consequence. It's probably the 30 billion dollarsa year Obama pledged to pay propping up other countries that made trump want to cancel it.

    Ah well at least you still have china- oh. india's no better.

    This accord has no teeth to punish divergeance, being part of it without the will to follow through is rather pointless beyond PR and Obama's pledge were prohibitively expensive both in payments and economic impact, so Trump refusing carrying out that follow through was basically inevitable.

    Doesnt help that the effect of the Paris agreement, even at 100% adheirance, is less than optimistic.

    Edit: altered the numbers as I found better info on who pays what:

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19
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    At least Trump is consistent in the use of "alternative facts":

    http://www.motherjones.com/environme...aris-agreement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    "Within the decade, there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro."
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    I do find this site to be interesting.
    https://climate.nasa.gov/images-of-change
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    Whats there to miss?

    The flagship was a lemon and the fleet suffered from it's example. Every redneck hick who looks at that picture and every other failed prediction his movie made of the last 10 years is saying to themselves "well if gore's movie was full of shit the rest of the people claiming climate change is real cant be any better".

    No amount of hand waving and "you dont get it"s are ever going to recover from that dent to credibility in the eyes of the american voter.
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