Climate Change Thread

**Montmorency** · 10-27-2018, 23:17

Originally Posted by Fragony

Closing the borders obviously, no more immigrants, there are already simplty too many we cannor cope with it. What I do myself is what I choose to do, I just will not not help someone when I can but it shouldn't be policy

Pim Forruin (RIP) had the great idea to have a general pardon for everyone, but seal the place after it

What happens if, after you leave the EU, close your borders, and mobilize your security forces to fortify the country, the condition of the poorer Dutch-folk has not improved and the wait times are just as long? What do you propose then?

**Gilrandir** · 10-28-2018, 04:56

Originally Posted by Montmorency

What happens if, after you leave the EU, close your borders, and mobilize your security forces to fortify the country, the condition of the poorer Dutch-folk has not improved and the wait times are just as long? What do you propose then?

Change the time calculation. When one "old" day equals one "new" hour, the time of waiting will be significantly lower.

**Fragony** · 10-28-2018, 08:25

Nothing, just not makinng it worse is all that can be done. It is a nice country and there really are not any serious problems but some issues should be adressed, and shouldn't be a problem to talk about, only talking. Leaving the EU, absolutily but that is not realistic with the current club they all want to go there it's a bit of a kartel in politics here, an open mind must also be sustainable and they make that really hard, I do not want to be turned into a hateful person but eventually I will become one. Mayve I am one already I fucking hate the EU and the multicultural left I am not calling an ambulance for them if they are bleeding out

(@Monty)

**Montmorency** · 10-28-2018, 21:00

Originally Posted by Fragony

Nothing, just not makinng it worse is all that can be done. It is a nice country and there really are not any serious problems but some issues should be adressed, and shouldn't be a problem to talk about, only talking. Leaving the EU, absolutily but that is not realistic with the current club they all want to go there it's a bit of a kartel in politics here, an open mind must also be sustainable and they make that really hard, I do not want to be turned into a hateful person but eventually I will become one. Mayve I am one already I fucking hate the EU and the multicultural left I am not calling an ambulance for them if they are bleeding out

(@Monty)

You seem to have identified foreigners as the chief problem your country experiences, and while you may be right it's possible you have misidentified the 'who' and 'what'. Rather than foreigners inside Dutchland, you should consider the effect of billions of foreigners outside Dutchland on your politics and the social welfare programs' implementation. If the existence of foreigners around the world is an operating environment for increasingly-fragmented sovereignty alongside integrated market chains under centralized direction, then you have the wrong scapegoat in immigrants to your country, and the symptoms you perceive can only be addressed by a muscular international consensus and agenda rather than aspirational paranoid reclusion.

Just a thought.

**Fragony** · 10-28-2018, 22:36

I do not blame them, I blame the multiculrral left. I have nothing against immigrants

**Tuuvi** · 11-09-2018, 03:27

How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.

**Montmorency** · 11-09-2018, 03:43

Originally Posted by Tuuvi

How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.

Ha did you get to Current Affairs from one of my links here, or independently?

**Fragony** · 11-09-2018, 08:40

Originally Posted by Tuuvi

How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.

Climate isn't going to listen, it's natural, as sharp as a Rolex look at timelines you will see this happening over and over again. What we can do is polute less

**Tuuvi** · 11-10-2018, 20:13

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Ha did you get to Current Affairs from one of my links here, or independently?

Independently, I'm subscribed to a lot of lefty subs on Reddit so that's how I first heard of them.

Originally Posted by Fragony

Climate isn't going to listen, it's natural, as sharp as a Rolex look at timelines you will see this happening over and over again. What we can do is polute less

Sure climate change is natural and the climate fluctuates throughout time, but that doesn't mean it happens randomly for no reason. The first oxygen-producing microorganisms changed the composition of the atmosphere and caused Earth's first ice age, why wouldn't human activity cause climate change as well?