Climate Change Thread

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It certainly does not happen randomly, our planet sometimes gets pulled out of orbit, nobody will deny that. That doesn't mean that we should become more cleaner and do our best to stress our ieviroment less, but manmade climate-change is a farce, a very lucrative one. WE should just pay more attention, we are in no need for more religions, we should just pollute less

You would do Rush Limbaugh proud with this stance.


I have been a skeptic regarding the anthropomorphic character of this current global warming period. I have yet to see good modeling for how we humans can be linked causally to this (may exist, but I cannot get a proper research piece to read for all of the babble that kills any google search on the subject -- if one of you lot has a link to a real research report and not someone's summary or babbling about consensus I would appreciate it. I want to read the data and manipulation thereof myself), but the correlation between human use of fossil fuels, population growth, and global temperature increases since 1850 is clear. Correlation is not causation, but that IS where start the research to see if there is a causal link, you do not just dismiss it.


Moreover, for all the socialist inclinations of many of the climate change crowd, their theme is actually a positive one. If global warming is anthropomorphic, then it suggests that we CAN do something to mitigate or reverse it. If it is not, then lots of land in the Pacific basin will be lost, massive public works projects will be required for our coastal population centers, and the nature of agriculture (food being the ultimate resource) will shift worldwide -- and there will be many who see violence as their means of adjusting to the changes. The geopolitical threats from global warming are of concern regardless of its cause. So, however skeptical you are of their agendas, remember that the climate change folks are actually being pretty positive here -- they think that something CAN be done to make things better.