Climate Change Thread

[Shaka_Khan]

[Shaka_Khan]

The speed at which the situations worsen over time seems to be exponential...

[ReluctantSamurai]

Oh, but the world's "leading climatologist" sez "It'll start getting cooler. You just watch." "I don't think science knows, actually".

https://www.politico.com/video/2020/...ifornia-090147

The naivete of Wade Crowfoot in literally pleading with Trump shows he understands very little about the man

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Oh, but the world's "leading climatologist" sez "It'll start getting cooler. You just watch." "I don't think science knows, actually".

https://www.politico.com/video/2020/...ifornia-090147

The naivete of Wade Crowfoot in literally pleading with Trump shows he understands very little about the man

Trump as his crowd -- schooled by Limbaugh's views on the matter for two decades -- are that we are in a natural warming phase of the Earth's temperature/climate cycle and that attempts to ascribe primacy for this climate change to anthropomorphic action are not supported by definitive science but are, instead, the product of incomplete scientific assessment that has been taken up as a leveraging tool by socialist/anti-capitalist/anti-US-hegemony forces to take the USA down three or four notches and continue to press for world governance and the expense of US sovereignty and personal freedoms.

As such, "It'll start getting cooler," is no less valid than all of science because they view the science as having been corrupted/suborned an inherently untrustworthy.

[ReluctantSamurai]

As such, "It'll start getting cooler," is no less valid than all of science because they view the science as having been corrupted/suborned an inherently untrustworthy.

I would argue that this crowd doesn't believe in science at all.

we are in a natural warming phase of the Earth's temperature/climate cycle and that attempts to ascribe primacy for this climate change to anthropomorphic action are not supported by definitive science

I'm pretty sure that climatologists understand that Earth's climate has cyclical patterns of warming and cooling Nah, it's the same old same old......money. Right now the money is on fossil fuels, although that's changing (not so much in the US if Fearless Leader gets re-elected).

[Montmorency]

Wrong thread plz delete.

[Montmorency]

Trump as his crowd -- schooled by Limbaugh's views on the matter for two decades -- are that we are in a natural warming phase of the Earth's temperature/climate cycle and that attempts to ascribe primacy for this climate change to anthropomorphic action are not supported by definitive science but are, instead, the product of incomplete scientific assessment that has been taken up as a leveraging tool by socialist/anti-capitalist/anti-US-hegemony forces to take the USA down three or four notches and continue to press for world governance and the expense of US sovereignty and personal freedoms.

As such, "It'll start getting cooler," is no less valid than all of science because they view the science as having been corrupted/suborned an inherently untrustworthy.

I would offer an amendment to this: the bulk of deniers - the ones who aren't conscious professional liars - don't have any fixed beliefs on the etiology or reality of climate change. The ideas they'll profess to hold are typically fluid and situational, i.e. anything that serves to contradict the climate consensus in the immediate moment. They have no problem contradicting themselves, because rational argument or even a defense of earnestly-held beliefs is not their domain. You might even call it -

I'm pretty sure that climatologists understand that Earth's climate has cyclical patterns of warming and cooling Nah, it's the same old same old......money. Right now the money is on fossil fuels, although that's changing (not so much in the US if Fearless Leader gets re-elected).

for the bulk not solely motivated by pecuniary blandishments - a form of identity politics metonymous to all the rest, bizarrely but genuinely inseparable from the broader supremacist project and mindset.

[ReluctantSamurai]

I would offer an amendment to this: the bulk of deniers - the ones who aren't conscious professional liars - don't have any fixed beliefs on the etiology or reality of climate change. The ideas they'll profess to hold are typically fluid and situational, i.e. anything that serves to contradict the climate consensus in the immediate moment. They have no problem contradicting themselves, because rational argument or even a defense of earnestly-held beliefs is not their domain.

I would say that Mother Nature is doing Her best to trash the "rational" arguments of climate change nay-sayers. From the historic wild fires out West and in Australia, to the derecho that flattened the Midwest, to the already record-breaking hurricane season for the Gulf states, to the unprecedented heat wave in Siberia....well the litany is loooong:

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...extreme-events