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    https://www.theguardian.com/housing-...sing-provision

    There's also a change in housing policy in the Netherlands, where social housing is replaced with "the market" fixing everything, if I understand that correctly.
    It's similar here in Germany, social housing projects have been cancelled, rents go up and up and "experts" keep saying that the market will fix the problem we never had before as soon as we allow rents to go up into regions where half the population cannot afford a roof over its head anymore.

    It's nothing but neoliberal problem solving, but of course it's the fault of all the immigrants and leftists because neoliberalism was neutralized by chemtrails long ago.


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    Low budget people do not have acces to the market, they will just have to wait because immigrants get priority. Guilt of leftists, yeah, absolutily. Neoliberation exists in the higher echelons, making it nigh impossible to buy a house. I got mine in time but it is really hard now to do, prices are insane. Simply put, working and middle class are abandoned in favour of immigration
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Low budget people do not have acces to the market, they will just have to wait because immigrants get priority.
    Well, market logic would say that if you cannot exist on the market, you're obviously not worth existing.
    That has nothing to do with leftism, it's just that the market always knows best.


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    No, quite the contrary, racism will get you a permaban at once there. It's no newssite it is a blog and you get away with more.

    What I said about immigrants getting priority is true, feel free to find someone saying otherwise. They also get money to furnice the place, washing machines, everything. We don't, we have to wait 10 years sometimes. It is not an issue for me myself becauce I bought my place, but you can be shafted pretty badly even if you have a job, immigrants get priority, wait a little longer kthxbye

    We (well not me) did not build a wellfare system for this. I am not as harsh as you think I have sheltered many just because I have a spare room. I wonder how many gutmensch did that
    Uh-huh. Do you have any other blogs you like?

    Fragony, let's assume it's true that immigrants are overwhelmingly prioritized in social programs (and I don't buy that they are). You are of the opinion that the government is failing to discharge its duties on behalf of the population. So, between the obvious responses you could have -

    1. The government should be compelled to fulfill its responsibilities.
    2. immigrants.

    why are you so attracted to the latter?
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    I help immigrants, they can live in my house, they can use my bathroom, use my kitchen, I don't mind, I got an extra room so why deny them that. That isn't something these politically correct mongrols do. Most tragic was a Syrian gay christian who was absolutily terrified to live in the asssylum-centre because he kept finding knives in his bed, so he could stay here np. Nice guy, lost contact.

    I don't hate them, the brother of the captain of the Marrocan-team is a buddy of mine(hooaguy met him here I don't know if he knows, the guy runned a lot of nightclubs my natural habitate), I know everybody here, I dispise the multicultural left thatś all

    What I say is true by the way, if you do not believe me you are free to ask someone else, 3 months max for immigrants, sometimes 10 years for Dutch natives. So unfair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I help immigrants, they can live in my house, they can use my bathroom, use my kitchen, I don't mind, I got an extra room so why deny them that. That isn't something these politically correct mongrols do. Most tragic was a Syrian gay christian who was absolutily terrified to live in the asssylum-centre because he kept finding knives in his bed, so he could stay here np. Nice guy, lost contact.

    I don't hate them, the brother of the captain of the Marrocan-team is a buddy of mine(hooaguy met him here I don't know if he knows, the guy runned a lot of nightclubs my natural habitate), I know everybody here, I dispise the multicultural left thatś all

    What I say is true by the way, if you do not believe me you are free to ask someone else, 3 months max for immigrants, sometimes 10 years for Dutch natives. So unfair
    How do you know the politically correct mongrels aren't also sheltering refugees? Maybe if you got together you could organize and shelter even more.

    Anyway, you believe that natives face long waiting times for social programs, while non-European immigrants are made to wait comparatively short times. Is the unfair part that natives face long waiting times, or is the unfair part that immigrants face short times? If the former, then the solution would involve reducing wait times for natives. If the latter, the solution to the latter would be to increase waiting times for non-natives, or otherwise restrict them; i.e. everyone suffers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I help immigrants, they can live in my house, they can use my bathroom, use my kitchen, I don't mind, I got an extra room so why deny them that. That isn't something these politically correct mongrols do. Most tragic was a Syrian gay christian who was absolutily terrified to live in the asssylum-centre because he kept finding knives in his bed, so he could stay here np. Nice guy, lost contact.

    I don't hate them, the brother of the captain of the Marrocan-team is a buddy of mine(hooaguy met him here I don't know if he knows, the guy runned a lot of nightclubs my natural habitate), I know everybody here, I dispise the multicultural left thatś all

    What I say is true by the way, if you do not believe me you are free to ask someone else, 3 months max for immigrants, sometimes 10 years for Dutch natives. So unfair
    What evidence do you have supporting this general assertion of yours? We've already seen from your Brexit assertions that you're prone to spouting a load of bullcrap, none of which is substantiated, on the trust that your unproven assertions are right and the overwhelming body of evidence is wrong.

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    You can ask other Dutch people. Not just housing, also free healthcare, it is policy. The latter I don't really mind as they have hardly any acces to the market and healthcare is a bargain here anyway, but the priority with housing I do mind, it is so unfair

    I am glad I could just buy a house and pay it, none of this nonsense affects me, but it seriously affects some, another year heythx, sorry it has gone to someone else, maybe next year, and the next the next the next
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You can ask other Dutch people. Not just housing, also free healthcare, it is policy. The latter I don't really mind as they have hardly any acces to the market and healthcare is a bargain here anyway, but the priority with housing I do mind, it is so unfair

    I am glad I could just buy a house and pay it, none of this nonsense affects me, but it seriously affects some, another year heythx, sorry it has gone to someone else, maybe next year, and the next the next the next
    In your opinion what steps should the government take to remedy the unfairness?

    Maybe the natives can get these houses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    In your opinion what steps should the government take to remedy the unfairness?

    Maybe the natives can get these houses?
    Closing the borders obviously, no more immigrants, there are already simplty too many we cannor cope with it. What I do myself is what I choose to do, I just will not not help someone when I can but it shouldn't be policy

    Pim Forruin (RIP) had the great idea to have a general pardon for everyone, but seal the place after it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Closing the borders obviously, no more immigrants, there are already simplty too many we cannor cope with it. What I do myself is what I choose to do, I just will not not help someone when I can but it shouldn't be policy

    Pim Forruin (RIP) had the great idea to have a general pardon for everyone, but seal the place after it
    What happens if, after you leave the EU, close your borders, and mobilize your security forces to fortify the country, the condition of the poorer Dutch-folk has not improved and the wait times are just as long? What do you propose then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    What happens if, after you leave the EU, close your borders, and mobilize your security forces to fortify the country, the condition of the poorer Dutch-folk has not improved and the wait times are just as long? What do you propose then?
    Change the time calculation. When one "old" day equals one "new" hour, the time of waiting will be significantly lower.
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    Nothing, just not makinng it worse is all that can be done. It is a nice country and there really are not any serious problems but some issues should be adressed, and shouldn't be a problem to talk about, only talking. Leaving the EU, absolutily but that is not realistic with the current club they all want to go there it's a bit of a kartel in politics here, an open mind must also be sustainable and they make that really hard, I do not want to be turned into a hateful person but eventually I will become one. Mayve I am one already I fucking hate the EU and the multicultural left I am not calling an ambulance for them if they are bleeding out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Nothing, just not makinng it worse is all that can be done. It is a nice country and there really are not any serious problems but some issues should be adressed, and shouldn't be a problem to talk about, only talking. Leaving the EU, absolutily but that is not realistic with the current club they all want to go there it's a bit of a kartel in politics here, an open mind must also be sustainable and they make that really hard, I do not want to be turned into a hateful person but eventually I will become one. Mayve I am one already I fucking hate the EU and the multicultural left I am not calling an ambulance for them if they are bleeding out

    (@Monty)
    You seem to have identified foreigners as the chief problem your country experiences, and while you may be right it's possible you have misidentified the 'who' and 'what'. Rather than foreigners inside Dutchland, you should consider the effect of billions of foreigners outside Dutchland on your politics and the social welfare programs' implementation. If the existence of foreigners around the world is an operating environment for increasingly-fragmented sovereignty alongside integrated market chains under centralized direction, then you have the wrong scapegoat in immigrants to your country, and the symptoms you perceive can only be addressed by a muscular international consensus and agenda rather than aspirational paranoid reclusion.

    Just a thought.
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    I do not blame them, I blame the multiculrral left. I have nothing against immigrants

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    How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

    It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

    It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.
    Ha did you get to Current Affairs from one of my links here, or independently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    How Brazil’s Neo-Fascism Threatens The Planet

    It's really disconcerting that anti-environmentalists like Trump and Bolsonaro are coming to power right at the moment when we really need to start taking action to curb climate change.
    Climate isn't going to listen, it's natural, as sharp as a Rolex look at timelines you will see this happening over and over again. What we can do is polute less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Ha did you get to Current Affairs from one of my links here, or independently?
    Independently, I'm subscribed to a lot of lefty subs on Reddit so that's how I first heard of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Climate isn't going to listen, it's natural, as sharp as a Rolex look at timelines you will see this happening over and over again. What we can do is polute less
    Sure climate change is natural and the climate fluctuates throughout time, but that doesn't mean it happens randomly for no reason. The first oxygen-producing microorganisms changed the composition of the atmosphere and caused Earth's first ice age, why wouldn't human activity cause climate change as well?

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    It certainly does not happen randomly, our planet sometimes gets pulled out of orbit, nobody will deny that. That doesn't mean that we should become more cleaner and do our best to stress our ieviroment less, but manmade climate-change is a farce, a very lucrative one. WE should just pay more attention, we are in no need for more religions, we should just pollute less
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