Futuramafia [Concluded]

[novice]

Also the thread is filling up with stuff that's worth commenting on.

[johnhughthom]

Ahem, the game does not begin until I say "Let the games begin".

Insolent peasants.

[El Barto]

I'm not third party, if I claim that later, lynch me with a vengeance.

We'll hold you to that, meatbag.

I laughed, and learned to multi-quote. :)

As expected.

Also the thread is filling up with stuff that's worth commenting on.

Such as…?

Ahem, the game does not begin until I say "Let the games begin".

Insolent peasants.

But you've just said ‘let the games begin’. It's right there in your post.

[novice]

this comment sucks

Touché. :)

everything is tone reads at this point, and I much prefer people making confident reads to people assigning single maybe-town points to inconsiquential actions so they can either kynch or save them later.

Ah, so the problem is that it's a maybe-town point? I thought the problem was that it was too early to give out town points.

I agree on the odd assignment of town points this early

Winston's assignment of town points seems a little early, but it might just be a different style.

Such as…?

You can tell me whether I'm splitting hairs or Dp101 is scumming it up.

[El Barto]

Why be ye sayin' tha' Dp101 be scummin' it up?

[Dp101]

Ah, so the problem is that it's a maybe-town point? I thought the problem was that it was too early to give out town points.

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out. Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything. It doesn't even tie them down that much because as mentioned earlier it is day one and since nearly everything is meaningless it is easy to state that you were wrong if you painted your mafia buddy as town. Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

[novice]

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out. Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything. It doesn't even tie them down that much because as mentioned earlier it is day one and since nearly everything is meaningless it is easy to state that you were wrong if you painted your mafia buddy as town. Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

Ah, so you admit to slipping up? /jk

Yes, I'm piling up the pressure. Who says I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt, though? You'll notice I'm not voting for you.

So giving out town points is meaningless, but showing confidence in your reads is good?

[novice]

You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town.

FWIW I would agree that this is a possible way to play as mafia. I would like to think though that mafia slips up more often than town, and that the behaviour where you slightly modify your reasoning from post to post is seen more often in scum than in town.

I'd be interested to hear what the players from other communities think though.

RealmsBeyond, where I hail from, is rather infamous for the "inconsistency = scum" meta even though that is clearly not a golden rule.

[Dp101]

Ah, so you admit to slipping up? /jk

Yes, I'm piling up the pressure. Who says I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt, though? You'll notice I'm not voting for you.

So giving out town points is meaningless, but showing confidence in your reads is good?

Ok, I apologise for the comment about you not being fair with your reads, you are right, you are at least not voting me. And yeah, I know the last part kind of is a contradiction. In my defence, my initial reads list which sparked all this was posted at midnight my time, so I wasn't really thinking clearly. Anyway, I don't think I'm going to come up with a more coherent opinion right now, I will try and solidify my thoughts on day 1 meta at a different time.

[Winston Hughes]

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out.

It's never too early to give town points. Especially for karma.

Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything.

This might be a decent point if I hadn't been spamming up the thread with all manner of nonsense.

A better line would be that I was posting shite just to look active.

The truth is that I was just enjoying myself and hopefully giving people stuff to talk about.

Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

Am I going to regret telling you my whole townie playbook in our pre-hydra discussions?

Confidence says you're thinking like a townie. Paranoia says I told you exactly how to do that.

[Dp101]

Am I going to regret telling you my whole townie playbook in our pre-hydra discussions?

Confidence says you're thinking like a townie. Paranoia says I told you exactly how to do that.

Yeah, I was a little worried that I would end up reflexively viewing you as town because of the hydra game and Novice as town because of the shared original community. Right now it seems like I was overcompensating for any bias I might have had and was viewing the both of you as more scummy than you are. Now however I have gained the clarity to realise that Novice is probably just either trying really really hard to find some kind of mafia or he thinks I'm mafia because that is all he has seen me play. As for you telling me too much, don't worry, you left yourself an out with the "will occasionally get drunk and post whatever" clause.

[Winston Hughes]

Ahem, the game does not begin until I say "Let the games begin".

Insolent peasants.

vote: johnhughthom

We both know it's going be D1 or lylo.

You feel like taking it all the way?

[CrimsonFox]

Also the thread is filling up with stuff that's worth commenting on.

this comment sucks

[Cuthillius]

vote stork

please report to the nearest suicide booth for saying "bub"

LOL!

<3

best reason for a vote i've EVER heard

this comment sucks

thought his entrance into thread was weak

[CrimsonFox]

thought his entrance into thread was weak

bull SHIT you do

[Visor]

bull SHIT you do

this seems a strong reaction, out of place a little?

[Visor]

i suppose its not like cuths post was particularly convincing by any stretch and i could vote him for it

[novice]

Hardclaim = full claim

So if he's lynched and is hostile, you get credit for pressing him, but if he's lynched and townie, you don't get criticized because you weren't voting for him eh?

*shrug*. People are not so stupid.
Leaning town on spaceman for that post though.

Visor, do you have a preference for playing scum, town, or no preference?

[Cuthillius]

vote stork

please report to the nearest suicide booth for saying "bub"

LOL!

<3

best reason for a vote i've EVER heard

bull SHIT you do

does it?

no but i do

novice is weak but i'm willing to give him time

your posts have tended to be fake and inauthentic

[CrimsonFox]

does it?

no but i do

novice is weak but i'm willing to give him time

your posts have tended to be fake and inauthentic

here's what youre saying just so that i'm clear...

you just HAPPEN to have that thought...that you don't like my entrance...on day one when nobody's entrance sounds "real" or "useful" or whatever...you just happen to think my entrance sounds fake and say that after 2 people push me and 2 more votepile onto me. that's your argument, right?

[Cuthillius]

here's what youre saying just so that i'm clear...

you just HAPPEN to have that thought...that you don't like my entrance...on day one when nobody's entrance sounds "real" or "useful" or whatever...you just happen to think my entrance sounds fake and say that after 2 people push me and 2 more votepile onto me. that's your argument, right?

Yup. Those were the posts that stood out to me when I read through the thread.