Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Dp101]

why did you think i was a wolf?

why did you not think i was a wolf later?

and then why do you think i am a wolf now?

Early on I dislike your tone. Your really short responses and quiet start sounded to me like a mafia trying just barely to stay in as an active participant. Then, earlier today, when I made my post about how I felt that I really screwed up the lynch, for some reason you stuck in my mind as someone who was a voice of reason, probably because it was novice's criticism of me that made me realise I was an idiot, thus making me trust him, and he thought you were solid town. Now, you think crimson did the kill, which to me feels very odd given his (seemingly) pacifistic comments, how close El was to the lynch, and crimson IIRC not thinking that El was that scummy, on top of you thinking I am now a wolf for no reason. So there, that is my thoughts around you.

[Stork]

Who do you think killed el barto?

[Dp101]

Who do you think killed el barto?

No clue. Kind of leaning to scum to frame crimson, but we'll see.

[Visor]

Vote: choxorn

[Stork]

No clue. Kind of leaning to scum to frame crimson, but we'll see.

well thats dumb lmao

[Montmorency]

its for the team because it gives information about how the eod played out, information about the people that voted el barto, information about el bartos reads

if he had of shot off wagon and hit a vt, the info gained would be worth far less

No. You know the saying "two birds with one stone?" If there's valuable information to be obtained from flips, then you force a secondary flip through your vig and then lynch the primary candidate who's lined up anyway. This strategy is the most appropriate, all the more so when it's the first night.

[Stork]

No. You know the saying "two birds with one stone?" If there's valuable information to be obtained from flips, then you force a secondary flip through your vig and then lynch the primary candidate who's lined up anyway. This strategy is the most appropriate, all the more so when it's the first night.

but now we get to play a whole day without having to wonder about el bartos alignment, which we already did yesterday

[Montmorency]

el bartos alignment, which we already did yesterday

And so now we will search for another lynch candidate, about whose alignment we will wonder. This clearly gives town less absolute information then the approach I outlined.

[Riedquat]

No clue. Kind of leaning to scum to frame crimson, but we'll see.

Why frame instead of kill him? O.o

[Dp101]

Why frame instead of kill him? O.o

Because there is a possibility of town doctors believing his claim and protecting him, and also it wastes the lynch.

[CrimsonFox]

Why frame instead of kill him? O.o

because vig's usually kill lots of villas probably esp day one

maybe my scum reads were totally offtrack day one
i was scumreading elbarto a lot yesterday tho...but then they (i guess) killed him.

which makes me scratch my head. if they left me alive cause they expected me to kill him they probably wouldn't kill him themselves.
so maybe they thought i'd kill someone else instead.

also ya know...they could kill a vig...or maybe they didn't believe me or even if they believed me...they might have gone seer hunting.

[CrimsonFox]

why is el barto talking?

[CrimsonFox]

why is el barto talking?

so that's his power....talk while dead?

hahahaha prefect for him! Now he can RP without suspicion! :)

and i kinda figured you would never RP as bender AS BENDER...but being flexo is so perfect hehe

[novice]

Over to night 2 now.

- Al will always vote for me when he has the chance, especially on D1. I should really remember that and just begin to vote him too. It would save on trying to be cute with D1 votes.

If this is a thing we can write off Al's day 1 as null.

Also, keeping track of all the information can be a bit of a pain in the, er, ass.

I didn't realize quite how early ATPG breadcrumbed his role. His tracking of Winston on N4 also demonstrates it, but it seems clear that if ATPG is scum, scum have a tracker.

takhsis getting that role is the worst thing imaginable

This was Visor's first post on D2. Not sure if it fits with Visor as vig, but I rerealize now that Visor as vig makes little sense anyway since he would've gone after CrimsonFox then.

Checking in.

I agree that Barto probably wasn't a mafia kill due to him being lynchbait.

Checking out, 'night all.

This was GH's first post after ostensibly jailing Pelican and seeing just one kill, which he believed not to be a mafia kill. Personally I would have looked into Pelican at this point.

Reread up to post 640.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why frame instead of kill him? O.o

Feels like padding his content here.

[Montmorency]

if he wanted to lynch him because he thought he was scum there isn't really a reason to not just shoot him, given he can (presumably).

Yes, but he clearly had other scum leans, and he was rather vocal about them. He could probably expect you, novice, DP, and others to join or at least consider a Bart lynch.

Also, he never explicitly said he would vig Bart, or anyone specific. His posts tapered off soon after the reveal.

[Stork]

should generally play for the team, not yourself as the vig imo

i learned that once

[GeneralHankerchief]

Checking in.

I agree that Barto probably wasn't a mafia kill due to him being lynchbait.

Checking out, 'night all.

[Montmorency]

should generally play for the team, not yourself as the vig imo

i learned that once

So are you saying a Bart vig would be for the team, or for vendetta? And people once called me cryptic.

Looking back at Crimson's posts, he actually speaks almost entirely for brief and vague comments about BSmith and GH (early on), sniping at Bart, and reacting to his own wagon. Still...

[Stork]

So are you saying a Bart vig would be for the team, or for vendetta? And people once called me cryptic.

Looking back at Crimson's posts, he actually speaks almost entirely for brief and vague comments about BSmith and GH (early on), sniping at Bart, and reacting to his own wagon. Still...

its for the team because it gives information about how the eod played out, information about the people that voted el barto, information about el bartos reads

if he had of shot off wagon and hit a vt, the info gained would be worth far less