Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Dp101]

Directed at Novice if it wasn't obvious.

[Choxorn]

I called it though somewhat obscurely by asking a direct question of Newyn. Did either of you pick up on that?

I didn't notice. Not sure about Newyn, we weren't given a way to privately communicate.

Wait, Choxorn you quoted my GH vote also, so you know this. So what are you doing?
My Pizza vote was just a claim request, as I already explained.

My point is I think that voting Pizza there even though you don't think he's a good lynch and don't think is scummy is scummy for you and you just seem fishy as hell today.

There were already a bunch of votes and suspicion on Pizza. You jumping onto the pile was irrelevant, but I think you wanted to make it look like you were helping out and trying to get Pizza to claim.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Novice

I'm home from school and sick today. I'll be popping in and out. I'm not doing any mega-analyses however.

[Askthepizzaguy]

PS stuff from 2 or 3 days ago isn't going to cut it.

[novice]

First quote was included by accident.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is time you could be using to point fingers at the scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Cuthillius

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Today: 5
Yesterday: 12
27: 16 posts
26: 17 posts
25: 46 posts
24: 6 posts (truncated) 256 in total
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Your average for the first 7 days is about 22 posts per day. Then you were really active on the 25th, and your activity has been dropping like a rock ever since.

Activity tends to go up as we have more information and claims and vote history. Why is yours going downward?

[Montmorency]

OK, I can't get any solid groupings out of this. It's almost certain one or more scum is outside of my naughty list, but only atheotes and novice are worth looking at by default given what's available (too strong on DP and Riedquat, almost nothing on JHT and Al Sip), and if I'm to default then it should be on Winston or Cuthilius. GH and Pizza can have tonight to 'work their magic'. Should tell us a few things, if GH agrees to jailkeep Pizza, and Pizza agrees to track GH. If Pizza himself is town, then he should give an honest account:

If GH keeps him, then he should admit no result.
If GH keeps someone else, then regardless of GH's alignment so long as Pizza is town he will tell us whom GH visits.

Admittedly, this gives us no information if they are both scum, but that's too much for me ATM. Also, it technically does not tell us that GH is town if Pizza is indicated town. Assume neither is third-party for simplicity.

A visualization:

	GH keeps Pizza	GH keeps someone else
Town P/Town G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH's activity
Town P/Scum G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH activity (risky for GH)
Scum P/Town G	Pizza wildcard	Pizza wildcard
Scum P/Scum G	Yeah right	God help us

Why wouldn't scum Pizza follow the behavior of town Pizza as listed above? Because that would be too reactive and low-reward. Scum Pizza would claim something sure to drive the lynch, such as 'X night-killed Y. Thankfully, there's also a third element in Riedquat to scan GH, even if weakly.

OK, never mind, it doesn't work.

Vote: Winston

I strongly recommend GH and Pizza follow this plan.

[novice]

This is time you could be using to point fingers at the scum.

That was thumbed out going from one customer site to another. I know better than you what I do and don't have time for.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That was thumbed out going from one customer site to another. I know better than you what I do and don't have time for.

Let's try this, then.

Give me a time frame where you'll be here for at least 1 hour. We're in the same time zone.

[novice]

What do you think of the mason claim?

We both dropped a minor hint that we knew the other was town:
Newyn: This guy is lock town. Trust me.

Choxorn: What makes you say that? Newyn seems to me like inactive lazy town, kind of like I am.

My first thought was that the Choxorn hint was maybe too minor to be counted as a breadcrumb, but Newyn's breadcrumb is pretty definitive and he's the confirmed townie. So I believe it.

Which makes me trust GH's claim less, since there are so many claimed and confirmed town power roles.

[novice]

Guess we're going to have to wait and see what GH and chox have to say for themselves.

I do have an angle here, btw, though to my knowledge I had nothing to do with the situation in question.

I guess this is the softclaim atheotes is referring to.

[Dp101]

Novice, you going to claim? Or did I miss you doing that.

[novice]

Novice, you going to claim? Or did I miss you doing that.

Do you want me to?

[novice]

I don't know if it will activate again when I scan another robot or person of interest to me, but for the time being yes kleptomania is always usable and I guess if my target can kill the result will be like CrimsonFox, a threat to my survival.

Sounds to me like Riedquat's scan can indeed nail GH. And Riedquat has a personal interest in scanning robots, IIUC. So I may be willing to postpone a GH lynch. OTOH scum can just block Riedquat.

Day 3 activities. What do you think?

What are you saying here?

I'm more interested in seeing you work in tandem with GH.

So you think Pizza and GH are scum together after all?

I wanted to say something more but it's slipped my mind.

[Riedquat]

I guess this is the softclaim atheotes is referring to.

Not sure... need to check all his posts, but perhaps was something else.

[novice]

OK, fine, I got that one wrong.

I didn't notice. Not sure about Newyn, we weren't given a way to privately communicate.



My point is I think that voting Pizza there even though you don't think he's a good lynch and don't think is scummy is scummy for you and you just seem fishy as hell today.

There were already a bunch of votes and suspicion on Pizza. You jumping onto the pile was irrelevant, but I think you wanted to make it look like you were helping out and trying to get Pizza to claim.

There were zero votes on Pizza. I was just asking for his claim so we could get on with the day.

[Choxorn]

There were zero votes on Pizza. I was just asking for his claim so we could get on with the day.

Wrong. Monty, Cuth, and Pelican all voted Pizza before you did.

[novice]

Wrong. Monty, Cuth, and Pelican all voted Pizza before you did.

Huh. My apologies, you're correct.
Well, I wasn't caught up at the time, the day was fresh in my mind, and I wanted to get a pizza claim and get on with the day.