Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

There is one brother in the group that isn't like the others, Igner. He's too dumb and sweet to actually be evil.

Not sure we could solve it by character due to cover roles.

[Montmorency]

But if there are cover roles, then clearly Murska's would not be a scum cover role. Either third party or town. Parallelism to Dr. Farnsworth (who was 3P) is likely.

Do you have any suspects left, Pizza? You want me dead, and (distantly) atheotes, so that leaves Al Sipsclar, Pelican, abd DP101 to be my scum partner.

Do you really think any of those combinations make sense? Do you think you can argue for any of those combinations making sense?

[atheotes]

I cant find Murska's claim. Can anyone help me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

But if there are cover roles, then clearly Murska's would not be a scum cover role. Either third party or town. Parallelism to Dr. Farnsworth (who was 3P) is likely.

Do you have any suspects left, Pizza? You want me dead, and (distantly) atheotes, so that leaves Al Sipsclar, Pelican, abd DP101 to be my scum partner.

Do you really think any of those combinations make sense? Do you think you can argue for any of those combinations making sense?

This question indicates to me that I do have one of the three wrong, otherwise you probably wouldn't be kind of shoving my wrongness in my face tauntingly.

I'll think about it and get back to you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Someone else may even have the exact right team and Monty doesn't want to talk about it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Think I'm right on Murska, though. Otherwise Monty would be leaping at the chance to mislynch the guy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now there's a surprising amount of people on the Cuth wagon.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

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Dr. Ogden Wernstrom

Player: Murska

Role: Wernstrom (https://theinfosphere.org/Dr._Ogden_Wernstrom)

Faction: TOWN


Team Victory Conditions:

The Town achieves victory based on its ability to achieve the goals listed below.

- The Mafia are eliminated.

- All hostile Third Parties are eliminated.

- At least one member of the Town survives the game.


Abilities:

Vanilla. You may continue to post in the game thread after your death. More details will come if/when you die.

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[Montmorency]

Someone else may even have the exact right team and Monty doesn't want to talk about it.

Whers'at?

And no, I am and have been leaping at the chance to lynch you. I have not accepted substitutes (though I was wrong about Winston, as I'm sure you enjoyed proving through your kill of him).

[Askthepizzaguy]

We are 10 now. Tomorrow we will be 9 with 3 scum and Quat probably not counting for parity.
if we mislynch we probably lose and yet we have no consesus.

I suggest the following actions:
Winston - Check on me.
Pizza - Track GH
GH to jk Dp101.

This is up there with Monty's plan from yesterday.

Winston died, if GH is scum blocker he can just block me and force a thunderdome between us that he wins, and since GH is being jailkept, and dp101 isn't Murska or atheotes himself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: atheotes

[atheotes]

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thanks.

Scum have cover roles. so i am not going to consider Quat's theory on Murska.

[atheotes]

This is up there with Monty's plan from yesterday.

Winston died, if GH is scum blocker he can just block me and force a thunderdome between us that he wins, and since GH is being jailkept, and dp101 isn't Murska or atheotes himself.

I dont fully understand what you are saying.
But my suggestion was based on my premise that Winston was scum and would be alive today anyway. and Dp101 was the likely kill

[Askthepizzaguy]

I dont fully understand what you are saying.
But my suggestion was based on my premise that Winston was scum and would be alive today anyway. and Dp101 was the likely kill

Would you lynch Murska today? Would you lynch Monty today? Would you lynch me today?

Generalhankerchief?

[atheotes]

Would you lynch Murska today? Would you lynch Monty today? Would you lynch me today?

Generalhankerchief?

GH has been my top scum read. he was also quick to vote Murska. I would expect town GH to be more skeptical here.
if it comes to Monty and you, probably you.
I also have my doubts about Quat. He needs most of the Robots to survive. if the scum dont have any robots it effectively makes him town. So why would he propose a "scum must be human" theory? Guess i need to read all the claims again.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH has been my top scum read. he was also quick to vote Murska. I would expect town GH to be more skeptical here.
if it comes to Monty and you, probably you.
I also have my doubts about Quat. He needs most of the Robots to survive. if the scum dont have any robots it effectively makes him town. So why would he propose a "scum must be human" theory? Guess i need to read all the claims again.

You have me as one of your scums, and picking me over Monty for the lynch.

You're pretty much in all my scum teams as well. If we're both town, game is over.

Do you want to lock that in and thunderdome one another?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Winston theorized before he died that Pizza and Monty were on the same scum team. Dp101 backed that theory up.

He's dead and there's at least one live player willing to push that theory.

The game is over if I ever get lynched. People should just decide my alignment today and not waste too much of their time.

If there's not four other players willing to say Pizza is town and I'm riding or dying with that belief, I don't want to keep playing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not trying to throw a pity party, or anything. I'll sit here all day and talk to anyone about anything and be willing to consider, for the most part, if they're town.

But you gotta understand this game feels like garbage to me and you have to understand that in my position, if we lynch scum, lynch scum, then lynch me, it's the same only worse.

[Askthepizzaguy]

For any X person you think is scum "with me", force a thunderdome between that person and me.

That way, I will be voting for a scum on our way out, as opposed to merely self-pres.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@GeneralHankerchief

I've been scum all game and I decided to pocket you because you obviously trust me after I tried to lynch you. That's a plan I had, right?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Especially given our famous ability to work well together in games where we're both town. Like myself and Zack.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH is nothing, if not a devoted pizzaguy fanboi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pelican and Dp are two others who have promised to end me. All you'd really need is Monty + anyone else, and that would at least force a 4-4 tie. And there's really no way I get five counter votes to that. Reidquat literally doesn't even need to take a stand on the issue, he wins if I get lynched, and voted me yesterday.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's lynch or lose and I'm still alive with a claimed town power role. It's like a no brainer.

I'm a tracker who isn't being blocked at this late stage of the game. There's literally no way that's not a scum role.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can we lynch Monty and then Murska, or Murska and then Monty? I'll settle for atheotes if he doesn't change.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here's the absolute bottom line:

Atheotes is going "GH is top scum" when I'm not being roleblocked or killed and Winston and GH were or likely were.

Someone actually believes that I can possibly think he's scum, as a townie.

Someone has to have me and GH as both being town in order to falsely sell that narrative. Like, literally only a scum can think that. Or else the accusation is actually that I am scum and I have the pizzaguy card that says it's not true.

If someone is a townie and thinks that I am town when I know GH has to be town at that point, then they also have to come up with a team of three that doesn't include Askthepizzaguy and Generalhankerchief.

It's the only trump card I have is that I alone know I'm still somehow a goddamned townie. Unless someone is willing to change their mind on GH, it's the same as saying I'm scum, and I know that's not true.

GH can't be the top scum on anyone's list. If Askthepizzaguy is town, why is he not killed OR blocked?

Saying GH is scum is saying GH is deliberately not blocking.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Atheotes, if you're town, and you think there's any possibility I am town, then guess what, we lose today if you vote GH.

You need to give me a team of three that includes neither GH or Pizza in that list. Otherwise we thunderdome.

If you're town, I need a miracle from you immediately.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I got Monty+Murska+atheotes as the exact team remaining right now.

Someone needs to start talking to me if that's wrong.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Murska scum blocker most probably given Monty not going anywhere.

He has to figure I'd be tracking him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

thunderdome me and murska.

thunderdome me and monty, not ideal, but I'll take it.

LMK

[Askthepizzaguy]

Like, Murska's claim was in literally the first post that comes up in a search, because it was his most recent post. Don't tell me that atheotes doesn't know how to iso and look at the very first entry before posting if he cared about that. Asking for help is a scumtell at this stage, because it is a subtle psychological trick to get someone to be on your side. It's the yes technique. Get someone to say yes to a simple request and they'll be more likely to follow up with one that screws you over.

That's marketing.