Catalonia

[Kadagar_AV]

Many people in Catalonia don't want their EU-share of blacks and arabs.

I understand them.

[Crandar]

Yeah, this is why the nationalists insist that Catalonia will be admitted in the EU even after the independence. They are displeased at the taxes they pay, not the imaginary Islamic threat.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Yeah, this is why the nationalists insist that Catalonia will be admitted in the EU even after the independence. They are displeased at the taxes they pay, not the imaginary Islamic threat.

Except that 50% of the taxes they get to keep, which is reasonable when you consider Spain controls the borders, the armed forces etc.

Removal of the Catalan Government after they signed a declaration of Independence was pretty much inevitable, especially after they refused to confirm if they had or hadn't actually done it.

Likewise, the Parliament was going to go after they went Secessionist.

With the majority of the pro-Independence leadership in prison it's likely the nationalists will not get a majority in the election in December, so unless the Catalans resort to armed insurrection (unlikely given they have nice comfortable lives) this will blow over in a few years. It might resurface in a generation, though.

[Gilrandir]

Puigdemont doesn't recognize his dismissal by Madrid. And? How will he insist on keeping his job? Lock himself in the office? I don't believe it is possible by non-violent ways.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Puigdemont doesn't recognize his dismissal by Madrid. And? How will he insist on keeping his job? Lock himself in the office? I don't believe it is possible by non-violent ways.

Since Spain has already used force (though not outright warfare), I suspect you are likely correct.

Declaring your independence, of itself, does not require the extent government to agree to it.

[Gilrandir]

Spanish foreign minister admits Catalonia's autonomy may be widened. Madrid is ready to step back?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Spanish foreign minister admits Catalonia's autonomy may be widened. Madrid is ready to step back?

AFTER taking such a hard line during the 'illegal plebiscite?" That kind of backtracking will only encourage those leaning die-hard to harden their position. Now, if they had done that BEFORE the plebiscite, very quietly, then that would have made for a very different result.