Help me bring back MTW to its own section!

**Axalon** · 10-16-2016, 12:36

Well... 2C, 3B is all about...

The rest is essentially about...

Include all other TW-games above RTW1 (+ another EB-mod) on that index, and you can't implode the section/category and tailor things to the stuff that actually interest you. Now, pick whatever alternative here that strikes you as the most reasonable, serious and attractive - especially for a supposed TW-site.

I know I have...

- A

**ghostofxmaspast** · 10-17-2016, 11:51

Originally Posted by Stazi

I'm not fully get it. Would it be a huge difference between 2b and 2c? It's a bit hard to picture it for me. Could you post any examples because explanation like "similar to how Warhammer Total War was before it was collapsed into sub-forums." says nothing to me. Would it be the same as game categories are now but with more links to sub-forums (more than actual three: Multiplayer, Modifications and Guides)?

Reverting the index to how it was before the grouping of the games together + the grouping of the mods together, is a step in the right direction.

It will not however be the magic bullet to solve the .org's problems and bring in new people or bring back old people.

Ax's first screenshot is something to aim for, except "general discussion" should be renamed to "main hall". The general modding forums and the MP forum also had special names which really should be restored.

Sadly there was some kind of vote, a number of years ago I believe, and those names were removed in favour of more generic ones. Because .org is essentially made up of many sub-communities, and always has been, this should not have happened in my opinion. .org is also a relic of a forum and quite dear to many. It has been going since 1999 - before the first game was even released - and many of it's traditions, names and practices should be held sacred.

What is needed at the .org is a system which benefits the sub communities and ensure that someone who only posts in the gameroom/frontroom/backroom is not making decisions which impact your chosen sub forum (interestingly those forums kept their names...).

**Axalon** · 10-18-2016, 12:16

Originally Posted by ghostofxmaspast

What is needed at the .org is a system which benefits the sub communities and ensure that someone who only posts in the gameroom/frontroom/backroom is not making decisions which impact your chosen sub forum...

A small detail that I also have noticed for some time now... (bolding mine)

- A

**edyzmedieval** · 10-20-2016, 21:20

After this vote, given that some patrons have expressed this feature to return, we will perhaps revert to the old names such as Main Hall, Colosseum and the likes.

**LordK9** · 10-21-2016, 00:05

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

After this vote, given that some patrons have expressed this feature to return, we will perhaps revert to the old names such as Main Hall, Colosseum and the likes.

When did that change? I don't think I was here all that long but I remember those designations. Being broke down has definite advantages - for one, many people ask a question about one game and people trying to reply don't know which one they are talking about. Gets to be a royal pain in the butt.

I'm a bit dumb though; it's unclear to me where one goes to vote (I tried a link at one point but it didn't seem to be right?). EDIT: Oh never mind banner at the top (duh!) - well, the bit dumb part still applies

**ghostofxmaspast** · 10-21-2016, 14:29

Originally Posted by LordK9

When did that change? I don't think I was here all that long but I remember those designations.

Most likely this changed because many old members moved on and newer members felt little attachment to those names.

I'm all for democracy in the real world, but not on web forum. It's been tried and it doesn't work. Putting it to the vote and then executing based on the outcome is flawed, because a week later the vote could produce a completely different outcome. Does one then continue running ballots and changing back and forth endlessly?

The nature of forums are that threads get missed, people can be absent for weeks or months and the result is that not everyone has their say/vote. It's then typically only those who strongly want to get something changed who get actively involved and vote.

This is why change has to be measured, careful and well thought out.

The .org and every single member should be considered before radical changes are made. It's not for a few members to vote on these issues nor is it for a select few staff to make changes based on this or personal preference. Remember that staff move on and often don't have to live with the consequences.

My position is simple: The board layout should revert back and the only small change/improvement would be to bundle the mods in their own categories with those games rather than keeping them separate. This should be based on discussion and proper investigation by the admin, not the currently running poll.

Similarly the "toys" which were introduced with vbulletin 4(?) several years ago (software which members donated to), should be disabled and the board needs to get back to it's simple roots and discard social network style gadgetry. Posts need to be be in the forums, but on profiles or in "social groups". The main page should also go and forums.totalwar.org should go straight to the index.

**Axalon** · 11-08-2016, 19:28

Ok, the vote is over... And this new place is soon 100% set to go...

We did get the dedicated section, but we didn't get it fully expanded - unfortunately. I did fight hard for it - as there actually was a majority for that expansion amongst the MTW-actives - but in the end Admin refused to give in. Despite all valid reasons I throwed at them. It is what it is... No matter...

Now, all my fighting with admin have resulted in something however - several corrections and improved clarity overall, and we have been granted a general modding sub-section for MTW1 - which is there on trial at my request. I suggest you guys use it - because it is not to be taken for granted, I fought hard for that thing - so make some good use of it - please...

The good news... This new MTW1-area we got now, is probably the largest and most extensive section for MTW1-stuff currently available on the planet. ...That's right. Use it folks, and it will last, maybe even grow (that's the plan). If you don't, it will disappear and probably never return to this state. As it is, you guys hold its destiny in your hands. Either you read, get active here and essentially post the hell out of this place - and it (this section) will prosper. Or... If you don't, it won't prosper, but slowly die. Its your call folks....

Signing off,

- A