Brexit NHS Funding Promise broken

[Pannonian]

All of that was known before the vote. And Frag will hand wave all of that away with "You'll be fine" and "It's worth it".

Both the surge and the fall aren't there, OK the biggest optimists were too optimistic but there aren't many of them. Anyone realistic should expect it to hurt, but a jab of a knife is very unlikely to kill you, hurts though of course. There is no precedent to base anything on, for boredom's sake, we can still see the broken window-theory in effect, that's not someone told me it is what I think with my very limited understanding of the actual situation and all the perfectly justified redicule that comes with it, maybe I have too much trust in my judgement but it worked so far for me.

Unlike you, Brenus lives in the UK, and faces the consequences of the Brexit that you're so keen on. If you're so keen on the broken window, join us and sit in the broken glass.

[Fragony]

Unlike you, Brenus lives in the UK, and faces the consequences of the Brexit that you're so keen on. If you're so keen on the broken window, join us and sit in the broken glass.

My reasons for aplauding the brexit go beyond your situation I will admit that but that doesn't mean I wish you any harm. Can't shake the feeling that you think I would be enjoying it if your situation gets worse. Some would though and those are the people who want the brexit to fail, not me

[Pannonian]

My reasons for aplauding the brexit go beyond your situation I will admit that but that doesn't mean I wish you any harm. Can't shake the feeling that you think I would be enjoying it if your situation gets worse. Some would though and those are the people who want the brexit to fail, not me

I get the feeling that you care not a jot if our situation gets worse, because this is all an intellectual exercise to you, where you get to watch the results of your stated experiment without the hassle of facing the consequences in person. Just like the neolibs with Russia in the 1990s. Hence your repeated stating of the broken glass theory, where others have to sit in the broken glass, while you get to document the results from a safe distance.

[Fragony]

I get the feeling that you care not a jot if our situation gets worse, because this is all an intellectual exercise to you, where you get to watch the results of your stated experiment without the hassle of facing the consequences in person. Just like the neolibs with Russia in the 1990s. Hence your repeated stating of the broken glass theory, where others have to sit in the broken glass, while you get to document the results from a safe distance.

Broken glass is nothing but a musing, a what if. Why so hostile to people who mean you no harm whatsoever. Do i find it interesting, yes. Why wouldn't I.it has never happened that a country volunteers to be out of the EU. That doesn't make me indifferent.

[Brenus]

"Both the surge and the fall aren't there" The fall IS there. Each time I put petrol in my car, it is there, when I go shopping, when I can't go out anymore because we have to cut our expenses in order to compensate the cost of living.
Even the brexiters feel they were conned now. NHS going down, Justice system in tatters, no more nurses for elderly people, teachers having enough. And this just because the IDEA of Brexit won.
There is no one day with warnings and examples in newspapers how the situation is going from bad to worst. And Brexiters saying finally that it will be harsh but it is worth of it, even they are not f*****ing able to give one sample of what they want to get rid of.
It is now obvious that the "winners" had no idea what to do with their victory, no plans whatsoever...
It is partially because they lied up to the teeth, but as well because the leavers had different reasons to do so.
There are no representatives of the left part that voted to leave the EU in the actual government. So, because Cameron did cooked the books, May is now in no position to blame EU for the deficit, as it is now obvious that EU has nothing to do with it. The cuts did the job.
Cameron and May did agree with EU, in term of policy. Free trade, less workers 'rights, more money for the riches, less taxes for big companies. That why Cameron did get an agreement with Merkel, they agreed with this policy (remember at the same time the Brexiters were arguing how EU was giving too much protection to workers, in France millions were demonstrating against EU destroying what left for workers' right and social welfare).
So, what now for May: Everything UK wants UK will have, and had before. How to explain to the brexiters: This was not EU, this was us, in full agreement with EU.

[Beskar]

Headline: A&E, cancer and maternity units to close in major NHS overhaul

In other news...
Buckingham Palace to get £369m refurbishment (thanks to Royal Mismanagement)

Priorities.

[Greyblades]

Their priorities are entirely sound; as bad as the NHS cuts are being responsible for buckingham palace going up in flames or collapsing would cause a hell of a lot more damage to the government's stability.

It is now obvious that the "winners" had no idea what to do with their victory, no plans whatsoever...
It is partially because they lied up to the teeth, but as well because the leavers had different reasons to do so.
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So, what now for May: Everything UK wants UK will have, and had before. How to explain to the brexiters: This was not EU, this was us, in full agreement with EU.

You complain that brexiteers blame the EU for what you say is the results of autonamous government actions just after blaming brexit for the same government actions not three paragraphs before.

[Sarmatian]

Headline: A&E, cancer and maternity units to close in major NHS overhaul

In other news...
Buckingham Palace to get £369m refurbishment (thanks to Royal Mismanagement)

Priorities.

I understand the underlying sentiment, being very much the proponent of French solution to monarchy if they refuse to go peacefully, but let's be fair - 369m over 10 years or so is a drop in the ocean for NHS (120b annually).

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Headline: A&E, cancer and maternity units to close in major NHS overhaul

In other news...
Buckingham Palace to get £369m refurbishment (thanks to Royal Mismanagement)

Priorities.

360m over 10 years, or 36m a year. Not a huge amount given the size of Buckingham Palace, the miss-management claim is also debatable given that HM Queen isn't allowed to use her private wealth to conduct major repairs and the Sovereign Grant doesn't allow for major overhauls (like replacing 40-year old boiler systems.)

As to the NHS:

"Many of the plans make clear that widespread staff shortages are another key driver. They hope that by concentrating sometimes scarce medical personnel in fewer places they can ensure consultant presence more often than otherwise and so help realise Hunt’s ambition of a more 24/7 NHS."

Doctors are already paid plenty, and they aren't driven into the ground like they used to be. So what's the problem? Possibly too many of them lack a service ethos and are moving to the Dark Side, or maybe we just aren't importing enough doctors from India anymore because they feel they're better off there.

Maybe it's just that society is collapsing.