Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief: I want to talk about this post:
This post is full of contradictions and very little commitments.
He says he's ISO'd everyone but can't make up his mind, and yet lists four or five suspects, a couple of whom have votes and none of whom are DP.
Nothing contradictory with the above. I don't have any certainty, but still can have gut feelings. Planning to lynch another townie today, General?
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief: He says he doesn't like me but he never likes me. This would ordinarily be fine save for the fact that my playstyle this game has been noticeably different than in other recent games and other people have commented on it. I don't think this reasoning holds up under scrutiny.
Why does it matter your playstyle is different this game, I still don't like it.
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief: He eventually waffles and votes DP because he says he wants a resolution, but then he says he supports calls for claims and abandons ship to the Riedquat wagon (Riedquat being still unresolved).
Yes, I waffle. Nothing wrong with that either. I don't have the certainty that you have. I had second thoughts about Choxorn, I WIFOMed on DP, then Stork snapped me out of it.
Originally Posted by Montmorency: AlS
Just call me Lou Gehrig.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy: I'll add pressure to Al Sipsclar until I can come up with a reason not to, or I find something stronger.
Vote: Al Sipsclar
I'm actually fine with my lynch. It sucks being the scummiest townie at lylo, so the sooner the better. Given that I despise logic, have trouble explaining my reads (or verbalizing my thoughts in general) and am easily swayed, my town game is usually poor. But I would rather lynch GH and Pizza before myself. I can also lynch Quat.
Originally Posted by Stork: how does "unlikely but not impossible" fit with me being a wolf anyway newyn?
You're saying the Alette kill rules you out of been scum. I'm saying while the Alette kill reduces the likelihood of you been scum, it isn't a sure thing. Basically I'm reading you as scummy despite the Alette kill pointing towards you not been scum.
Originally Posted by Newyn: You're saying the Alette kill rules you out of been scum. I'm saying while the Alette kill reduces the likelihood of you been scum, it isn't a sure thing. Basically I'm reading you as scummy despite the Alette kill pointing towards you not been scum.
I don't think Stork is scum, but given how he's acted today, I can't blame anyone for voting him and I wouldn't care much if he died.
To conclude, I also think that Riedquat should be destroyed, and I'm rather upset he doesn't have any votes on him right now. Allow me to rectify that.
It's more productive to assume that the above set of 5 does not include all the scum. But then, at the moment I have no reason to jump around candidates if permutations and uncertainty are rising. Unless there is an actual new development I should just commit to my current read and face the consequences. I hope GH takes the opportunity to say a few things about the field.
Originally Posted by : It's more productive to assume that the above set of 5 does not include all the scum.
I say this because - assuming 3 scum - approaching the situation as a bussing merry-go-round robs the permutations of weight and invites a coin-flip.
Assuming only 1 scum among the set means the interactions within the set are much less usable.
If there are two scum there, and they are GH and Choxorn, then they are playing limply without much self-defense. That scenario is much less likely now. It could be a straightforward bussing scenario with Al Sipsclar and GH (who hasn't voted yet however), but there's no particular reason to take that scenario beyond individually suspecting them. GH is oddly subdued for either alignment and hasn't given much to work with. If he is scum, he could certainly use his skills to develop another wagon to deflect from himself and partner(s).
Just because it's likelier than not, I'll list what I have in mind for permutations involving only 1 among [Newyn, Al Sipsclar, Riedquat, Choxorn, GH) as scum:
GH is scum for tunneling one player per day thus far and showing little to no interest beyond that.
Newyn is scum for showing up to dp's lynch to call me scummy but not change his vote.
Riedquat is scum for one post that sort of looked like taunting dp on his way out.
Choxorn is scum because I don't know why choxorn is scum. Choxorn is always scum. I can't read him, so I'd rather he was dead.
Al Sipsclar is scum for some crappy posts on day one. I don't know what to make of his incredibly different single post on day two.
El Barto is scum for lacking much energy beyond tunneling Monty.
Monty's scum because paranoia.
Zack's scum because Zack.
You're scum because you could pull this off so far with one hand tied behind your back.
BSmith would disappoint me deeply if he's scum.
I don't think atheotes is scum.
Stork's not scum.
I'm not scum.
I'm not against of removing myself from the equation, so if any of you has doubts just go ahead and lynch me now, the sooner, the painless it would be!
Renata and BSmith vote Newyn.
Pizza votes Al Sipsclar, then I do.
Zack votes GH and I join, then Al Sipsclar does.
Choxorn votes Riedquat.
Newyn votes Choxorn.
Pizza switches to Choxorn.
Riedquat votes Al Sipsclar.
My hackles are raised about Riedquat until the next thing happens. GH's vote, once it comes, will define the dynamic through EOD I believe.
Originally Posted by Renata: Monty's scum because paranoia.
Zack's scum because Zack.
You're scum because you could pull this off so far with one hand tied behind your back.
BSmith would disappoint me deeply if he's scum.
I don't think atheotes is scum.
Stork's not scum.
I'm not scum.
I'm not sold. Where's the antics? I need to be pulling some antics if I'm scum.