Visor's Small Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

So you claim a 1-shot vig. Way to up the ante.

Al Sipsclar, in any universe where atheotes is town.

if atheotes is town, and you and Renata are town, and Khaan is town, and let's add novice for good measure, then that leaves Al-Monty-Barto-BSmith-Newyn, and I doubt you would consider BSmith in light of the other targets.

Your claim succeeds in making me more hesitant to lynch you, but now there is no way I'm backing down from Khaan. One way or another you're protecting him and if both you and Khaan survive through tomorrow it's game over. You'll be shielded by the claim, and Khaan's moment will have passed. You're ranging to lynch me, and all that atheotes-Barto-Al Sipsclar stuff is just filler or primer to seal the deal tomorrow.

[seireikhaan]

So you claim a 1-shot vig. Way to up the ante.



if atheotes is town, and you and Renata are town, and Khaan is town, and let's add novice for good measure, then that leaves Al-Monty-Barto-BSmith-Newyn, and I doubt you would consider BSmith in light of the other targets.

Your claim succeeds in making me more hesitant to lynch you, but now there is no way I'm backing down from Khaan. One way or another you're protecting him and if both you and Khaan survive through tomorrow it's game over. You'll be shielded by the claim, and Khaan's moment will have passed. You're ranging to lynch me, and all that atheotes-Barto-Al Sipsclar stuff is just filler or primer to seal the deal tomorrow.

My moment will have passed? How so? What kind of town logic is this anyways? Look, I can get Renata jumping my bones(), because yes, my big elaborate post probably wasn't my best work, but guess what, that's not normally my schtick and I didn't exactly have a ton of time left in the round, so I had to run with my gut at points. But what argument is *this*? "I have to lynch khaan now, just in case he's mafia"? How does me not being lynched today somehow prevent my lynch tomorrow? Heck, that's one of the things I've historically been best at - getting the threat of lynch for a few rounds before people tire of me and throw me into the volcano later in the game. I don't get this.

[Montmorency]

My moment will have passed? How so? What kind of town logic is this anyways? Look, I can get Renata jumping my bones(), because yes, my big elaborate post probably wasn't my best work, but guess what, that's not normally my schtick and I didn't exactly have a ton of time left in the round, so I had to run with my gut at points. But what argument is *this*? "I have to lynch khaan now, just in case he's mafia"? How does me not being lynched today somehow prevent my lynch tomorrow? Heck, that's one of the things I've historically been best at - getting the threat of lynch for a few rounds before people tire of me and throw me into the volcano later in the game. I don't get this.

Because if you don't lynch today, there will be no more impetus behind the case aside from me, and Pizza will dominate the day - the day being D4 being LYLO if scum isn't lynched today. If you are scum and you don't swing today, the game is effectively over.

There is no scenario in which I can lynch you tomorrow, period.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you need my vote to lynch a scum you'll have to decide your final vote relatively early in the round. These rounds end well after I go to sleep and then to school, in Norwegian time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Otherwise I can just faff about and be a lone voter. I can't help you cfd someone.

[seireikhaan]

Because if you don't lynch today, there will be no more impetus behind the case aside from me, and Pizza will dominate the day - the day being D4 being LYLO if scum isn't lynched today. If you are scum and you don't swing today, the game is effectively over.

There is no scenario in which I can lynch you tomorrow, period.

How on earth is there suddenly no impetus for it? Consider:

Town lynches someone else. Most likely, I will have to vote for said person because of self-preservation. If they are mafia, yay, we're not lylo, high fives etc. If they are town, suddenly I am sitting here being the guy who self preservation voted twice and got two townies lynched. On top of the fact that there is consistently multiple votes onto me ever phase. How on earth, again, do you lose the impetus to lynch me?

And, just another thing to toss out:

Consider, for a moment, if I am *not* scum. Wild theory, I know. I know that you want to pair atheotes with me or something to that effect if I am. But what if I'm not? Suddenly you're back here at LYLO, only instead of having your clear scum target, you have.... what? You already seem to think a town me implies a town atheotes.

[Montmorency]

I know that you want to pair atheotes with me or something to that effect if I am.

No, I didn't. More like the opposite.

You already seem to think a town me implies a town atheotes.

Opposite.

Town lynches someone else. Most likely, I will have to vote for said person because of self-preservation. If they are mafia, yay, we're not lylo, high fives etc. If they are town, suddenly I am sitting here being the guy who self preservation voted twice and got two townies lynched. On top of the fact that there is consistently multiple votes onto me ever phase. How on earth, again, do you lose the impetus to lynch me?

If you ignore everything else going on, maybe. You haven't been the center of attention since yesterday, and even then for only a small part of the day. If you live today and get atheotes or Al Sipsclar lynched and they flip town, I guarantee then that Pizza will do everything possible, directly and indirectly, to direct attention away from you. Winning concretely as opposed to RNG only solidifies the lack of interest.

[seireikhaan]

No, I didn't. More like the opposite.

Derp. MB.

If you ignore everything else going on, maybe. You haven't been the center of attention since yesterday, and even then for only a small part of the day. If you live today and get atheotes or Al Sipsclar lynched and they flip town, I guarantee then that Pizza will do everything possible, directly and indirectly, to direct attention away from you. Winning concretely as opposed to RNG only solidifies the lack of interest.

.....I don't get this. Like, seriously. If we counterwagon someone and lynch them as opposed to me, and they flip town, how do I suddenly drop off the radar? I'm actually baffled at this line of logic. Are you this terrified of Pizza?

[Montmorency]

Scum vig was my working theory even before Pizza's claim.

Heck, he may well be an SK.