Visor's Small Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't know yet here I'm heading with my vote.

A townie has this thought at this stage of the game, when she has like 4 scum suspects.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Khaan and Monty w/w? Can we just give them the Emmy for best dramatic performance now?

Claims Monty is scum

Monty-Renata-Pizza

Claims Renata is scum

Let's call it a win and blow this pop stand.

Taunting you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm actually more convinced of Newyn than of Khaan at this point, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I think the bit at end of day with Newyn first voting Pizza, then switching, was a bit of theater to make him look not quite so much like a teammate, enabled by BSmith changing his vote. Look at Pizza talking about Newyn throughout this game and tell me you don't see mafia tiptoeing around a teammate.

I don't understand why you would go Khaan today and risk splitting votes at LYLO.

Because you and El Barto and Monty opened the round with 3 different votes on purpose.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh please. Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Is this your way of telling me you're going to wimp out of shooting at me tonight, too?

Predicts she will live again tonight.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't care. Playing games with the scums over it is redeeming this whole game for me. I'm glad I did.

Admits claiming bp as town is a bad strategy, claims she did it to "play games with the scums" as opposed to handshake with the inventor.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't be scum El Barto. If I got two townies with my scumbuddies claim on day one I'll be so happy.

Sure, just vote Monty repeatedly and be worthless, and I'm not going to look into that more. Just "don't be scum"

Excellent towning. And the "I claimed scumbuddies with El Barto" thing is still on her mind here.

Very proud of yourself for that, aren't you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Atheotes is town.
Montmorency is town.
Bsmith is town.
I hope El Barto's town.

Her 2 scum buddies and her 2 wrong townies.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Which common denominator, Newyn? That's literally the only one. I can't do that. Monty won't do it, and without that vote the town majority risks being overrun. Sorry, Pizza. I'd love to have a F3 showdown with you, but no dice. You'll just have to kill me or try to lynch me now.

Refused to vote for common suspect Newyn.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And as noted, was speaking on Montmorency's behalf.

Glad they have a spokesperson.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So Newyn is a criminal mastermind. Are you voting for him?

Calling himself a criminal mastermind, because he's quite pleased with himself th how he's dicked over this town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh god, you couldn't even keep your vote on Newyn for five minutes.

I offered to lynch him. She refused. This is the exact same frigging thing she did with NOVICE.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, and no. It's you or Newyn, and Newyn only if Monty agrees.

Shifts responsibility for who she votes onto Montmorency.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Eh? I am not going to vote for Renata.

El Barto will not vote for Renata. Will not vote for Montmorency, the guy he opened the round voting for and spent all game calling scum.

It was a bluff.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Couldn't finish, at school now.

Scummary:

Her one-time and still villager reads Monty, El Barto, atheotes, and Bsmith shouldn't all be alive if that's an entire block of villagers.

She gives El Barto a pass to ineffectively push Monty all game for no reason. Unwilling to lynch here or on Montmorency.

El Barto pushes Monty ineffectively all game, making no case on him whatsoever, latching onto a thing he said, and skating through the game. When I offer to help him lynch Monty, he utterly refuses, even though that was his opening vote today and his game-long suspect. Refuses to push Renata.

Montmorency unwilling to lynch anyone but khaan or myself, not willing to lynch his accuser El Barto, or Renata.

Renata knew I was a one shot vig, pressed me to claim the shot, knew the vigilante shot Zack and not Stork, and then claimed bulletproof.

She claimed bulletproof even though that's not a thing a villager does as bulletproof. Evidence points to her being a tracker.

Renata pushes choxorn and Al sipsclar as wolf/wolf then goes after anyone who agreed with her, except Monty.

Renata pushed dp101 and Reidquat and then went after people who agreed with her.

She passed the blame for dp101, Reidquat, choxorn, and Al sipsclar onto others and asked them to make the call. Example: Telling atheotes it was up to him last round, instead of taking a stand and pushing her own suspects.

I have a visibly confirmed power that has not been counterclaimed, which, if I am scum, means the scum team had a one time shot in addition to their regular shot. It's more traditional for them to have let's say a strongman shot which replaces the team kill that night.

Instead of pushing me yesterday, Renata was willing to lynch my suspect, since it was wrong.

What's scummier- guy who made cases on people and was wrong, never backed off any of his own reads or passed the blame, or person who allowed all of those lynches to happen, but positioned herself such that it was never her fault.

What's scummier- guy who claimed a one time vigilante shot, or person who claimed bulletproof for no reason after there's a vigilante known to be in the game?

Keep in mind for the above line: She is claiming she no longer even had that bulletproof power at the time she made that claim. But she still claimed she had it after I claimed vigilante, to deter me from shooting there.

El Barto and Renata have been hinting they're scum together all game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Renata and Montmorency both claimed to be scum together with one another this round also.

El Barto called the scum team's choices "mastermind".

This is a team of scumbags that is taunting you right to your face and have all town-read each other, and refuses to vote one another, while also town-reading atheotes and BSmith where convenient.

If that group is all town, why did me, khaan, and Newyn never shoot inside that group?

I AM NOT MENTALLY CHALLENGED.

@atheotes @BSmith

That's it. Renata is the easiest read. She's got 3 votes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am your uncounterclaimed visible vigilante.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Track where her suspicion is all game. She's flip flopping between defense, accusation, and accusing the accusers of people she suspects.

She reads people townie and then scum with nothing in between explaining the flip.

[Askthepizzaguy]

She outposted me this game, and both she and most of the other high posters she read as town are all still alive. She never gained suspicion and her one worry this game was me shooting her.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Other than me, Renata, El Barto, and Montmorency are the 3 top posters of the game. None have received suspicion, none were nightkilled, all refuse to lynch the other even when one votes the other (EB--> Monty).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Puts the exact scum team as Askthepizzaguy, Newyn, and Khaan 2 rounds ago.

We didn't kill off any of the people she mutually town-read. We decided to leave all of you alive with her as bulletproof and getting no suspicion whatsoever.

We didn't reduce the number of her allies.

Also, a team of Askthepizzaguy, Newyn, and Khaan. I decided it was a good idea to openly have my teammates vote with me this round and save me yesterday, while not removing any of the people who suspected any of us.

That happened in this universe.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There is no danger of me being w/w with Renata. We could have lynched Newyn this round if that was the case, there were 5 people willing to lynch him today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There is no danger of me being w/w with Renata. We could have lynched Newyn this round if that was the case, there were 5 people willing to lynch him today.

^
This is the most important one. You guys can see all this and know Renata is scum, but you won't move if you think I am because you think I'm worse.

[BSmith]

I'm not moving.

[atheotes]

Couldn't finish, at school now.

Scummary:

Her one-time and still villager reads Monty, El Barto, atheotes, and Bsmith shouldn't all be alive if that's an entire block of villagers.

She gives El Barto a pass to ineffectively push Monty all game for no reason. Unwilling to lynch here or on Montmorency.

El Barto pushes Monty ineffectively all game, making no case on him whatsoever, latching onto a thing he said, and skating through the game. When I offer to help him lynch Monty, he utterly refuses, even though that was his opening vote today and his game-long suspect. Refuses to push Renata.

Montmorency unwilling to lynch anyone but khaan or myself, not willing to lynch his accuser El Barto, or Renata.

Renata knew I was a one shot vig, pressed me to claim the shot, knew the vigilante shot Zack and not Stork, and then claimed bulletproof.

She claimed bulletproof even though that's not a thing a villager does as bulletproof. Evidence points to her being a tracker.

Renata pushes choxorn and Al sipsclar as wolf/wolf then goes after anyone who agreed with her, except Monty.

Renata pushed dp101 and Reidquat and then went after people who agreed with her.

She passed the blame for dp101, Reidquat, choxorn, and Al sipsclar onto others and asked them to make the call. Example: Telling atheotes it was up to him last round, instead of taking a stand and pushing her own suspects.

I have a visibly confirmed power that has not been counterclaimed, which, if I am scum, means the scum team had a one time shot in addition to their regular shot. It's more traditional for them to have let's say a strongman shot which replaces the team kill that night.

Instead of pushing me yesterday, Renata was willing to lynch my suspect, since it was wrong.

What's scummier- guy who made cases on people and was wrong, never backed off any of his own reads or passed the blame, or person who allowed all of those lynches to happen, but positioned herself such that it was never her fault.

What's scummier- guy who claimed a one time vigilante shot, or person who claimed bulletproof for no reason after there's a vigilante known to be in the game?

Keep in mind for the above line: She is claiming she no longer even had that bulletproof power at the time she made that claim. But she still claimed she had it after I claimed vigilante, to deter me from shooting there.

El Barto and Renata have been hinting they're scum together all game.

Does Scummary mean "summary done by scum"?

[atheotes]

Pizza, i know what you are doing. I was the subject of it in the Futurama game.
I am fairly convinced that you are scum. its only the simplicity of the whole thing that bothers me. But that is not for today.
My vote stays.

[Renata]

Wow, Pizza. That's amazing.

[Visor]

atpg lynched dead mafia

23 hours for night orders 24 hours for night

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh. OH....

You wanted me to lynch scumbags and not townies.

Well that's just a miscommunication thing. More your fault than mine, really. I cannot be held responsible for the pile of dead bodies in my wake.

[Visor]

atheotes killed, dead town

Alive: 6
1. Renata
4. BSmith
6. El Barto
7. Montmorency
8. Khaan
12. Newyn

dead 9
5. Dp101 town d1
15. Scarlett Aria town n1
11. Choxorn town d2
2. Stork town n2
10. Zack town n2
9. Al Sipsclar town d3
14. Novice town n3
3. ATPG mafia d4
13. Atheotes town n4

48 hours for day

[Renata]

Fucking mafia.

vote: Newyn

Waiting for El Barto to show up and vote Monty and ruin my life.

I'll come back later to make a proper case and try to check my assumptions and oh god why.