Visor's Small Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Renata]

I've said it already, but I think he's lying about finding me scummy there. I think he's just stirring the pot.

[Renata]

I already gave my suspicions. I thought you were bizarrely wrong, but I can't hold you as scum for that alone. As Renata also pointed out, there are limits to the effort scum would put into lynching DP, so it would be a stretch to put you down as scum with both Choxorn and GH. If both are town, it looks much worse for you however.

I don't remember pointing out any such thing.

[Montmorency]

Looks like you are convinced that Choxorn and GH are scum...
What your take on Renata?

At least one, as I said. Proceeding with the expectation that both are scum obviously prevents us from reading the rest of the game and players in a serious way.

Renata still with Zack:OK by me. I will watch how they diverge as the game progresses.

[Montmorency]

I don't remember pointing out any such thing.

Post 342 and response 344.

[Renata]

Oh that. Yeah, I still believe that.

[Renata]

I don't think it says anything about the rest of the wagon: me, Atheotes, Newyn.

[Riedquat]

why did you post at night quat?

Missed last line from second set of rules.... missed the second set of rules altogether to be honest. Apart of that was my very way to say HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Stork]

Missed last line from second set of rules.... missed the second set of rules altogether to be honest. Apart of that was my very way to say HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

so you read the reveal but you didn't read the post directly before it?

[Renata]

vote: Newyn

[Renata]

At least one, as I said.

Ok, if at least one of GH/choxorn are scum, how much credence do you give to my theory that Al Sipsclar voted dp and Riedquat in quick succession in an attempt to find the better wagon to outweigh choxorn's? Are choxorn and Al Sips w/w?

[Montmorency]

Choxorn's wagon didn't really exist as such: it was Riedquat lolcatting (?), me pushing, and DP101 taking it up opportunistically.

It never got traction beyond that. I'll give you that Sips came up with the response sooner after that than I remembered, and after Stork called him scummy.

His reads post was awful in that it didn't go beyond shading almost everyone involved in the DP wagon and counterwagons. The only people involved in the major wagons from yesterday (at that point) whom he doesn't mention are Newyn and Atheotes.

It could be m/m with Choxorn from the perspective of quickly discouraging that wagon, or GH distancing (given they were scum in the last game). But again, there wasn't much of a Choxorn wagon and there wasn't much to gain from mentioning GH.

[Riedquat]

so you read the reveal but you didn't read the post directly before it?

Not till now...

And I'm sorry but I do wonder, yours is just curiosity about my idiocy or there is something else there?

[BSmith]

As for Newyn, it's that he was right there, in the moment. He commented immediately after my switch back to dp, as the very next post, and he said nothing about either wagon. I look scummy, yet he does nothing about it, no vote on Riedquat, not even any comment or anything?

vote: Newyn based on this reasoning. I could also be persuaded to vote for Reid and Al.

[Montmorency]

Page 12 events:

AlS switches onto DP. Stork notes Riedquat is good alternative wagon with some switches. AlS switches onto Riedquat. DP101 joins. Choxorn rants against Riedquat and urges his lynch.

It's a very neat short sequence if Choxorn, GH, and Al Sipsclar are scum and want to finalize their positions relative to each other for the day (Al Sipsclar on Quat Choxorn OMGUS Quat, GH on DP101), but that's not a smart approach.

If anything, this weakens the case for relationships between those three and makes Stork look a bit off.

[BSmith]

PSA: I am traveling for work again next week. I leave on Saturday morning for Manila which will result in 24+ hours of travel. Based on the schedule of this game that *should* be mostly over the next night, but my posting is going to be somewhat less reliable over the next week or so. I’ll be returning to the States on the 10th.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm reading the game, just uncharacteristically low energy today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I haven't seen anything that makes me push any of my town reads away from being town.

On the other hand, I don't have a strong suspect at the moment. Renata's case on Newyn seems fine.

I'll add pressure to Al Sipsclar until I can come up with a reason not to, or I find something stronger.

Vote: Al Sipsclar

[Montmorency]

Vote: Al Sipsclar

[Zack]

The lynch yesterday was awful wtf is wrong with you people

[GeneralHankerchief]

The lynch yesterday was awful wtf is wrong with you people

This kind of sentiment really annoys me.

Hindsight isn't worth a damn, speak up more forcefully if you hate something so much.

[Montmorency]

Hindsight isn't worth a damn, speak up more forcefully if you hate something so much.

War crimes trials shall proceed as you wish, Sir General.

[Zack]

This kind of sentiment really annoys me.

Hindsight isn't worth a damn, speak up more forcefully if you hate something so much.

What annoys me is when you made a post this morning excusing yourself of any blame because he "was acting scummy" when in fact he was playing exactly the same as his other town games on this site in which he was universally townread

[Zack]

I don't think dp has been any different than the most recent game, so idk where all the votes are coming from.

and I did voice my opinion gh

sorry I didn't yell it in all caps would that have satisfied you

[Montmorency]

he was universally townread

Recall Pizza going so far as to say "he smells like wet dog" when scum-reading DP101 last game. 'This isn't the DP101 we know' or somesuch.

The one where Pizza was scum claiming serial killer. :/

[Zack]

GH's posts this game don't seem genuine at all to me. Like he is making carefully calculated chess moves to push his agenda.

[Zack]

Recall Pizza going so far as to say "he smells like wet dog" when scum-reading DP101 last game. 'This isn't the DP101 we know' or somesuch.

The one where Pizza was scum claiming serial killer. :/

well I didn't really pay much attention to that game after I died

but he was being townread while I was alive

also he was EXACTLY THE SAME as that game so ???

he was being very transparent in revealing his thought process in a way that is typical of villagers and him in particular

[Zack]

Stork is very likely a villager

[Zack]

lolwolves and so forth for that nightkill

[Zack]

@Renata

I think you're the one who mentioned something about a n0

knowing visor I seriously doubt there's a cop in this game, especially one with a n0 check, and if there is i will be CROSS with him

[Montmorency]

I'm letting it out into the conversation because it might just have bearing on my hypothesis on premeditated mislynch of the closest thing to pre-lock town.

Here was the post I had in mind:

If there's a wolf on Zack and it's not Aria, that's your guy. This isn't the same dp101 from last game.

He smells like wet dog.