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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    This is annoying because it's not as much of a ridiculous conspiracy theory than Hooahguy says;
    That is not what he said...
    But from your reply, I presume you are a follower of the Conspiracy theory.

    Here is a summary of the PizzaGate saga by the BBC
    www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985
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    Although this seems very far fetched, some things that eventually became reality were equally, if not more far fetched - be that the Snowdon materials or historic cases of abuse in the UK where we are doing the traditional sort of enquiry that keeps on going on until everyone involved is dead.

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    I find it quit interesting that any thing termed a conspiracy automatically acquires theory at its end when it reaches public discourse.

    Pizzagate came into the public’s view from hacked emails and so far as I know it is still a part of a real federal investigation. That investigation may or may not become known, dependant on what is found and the power and influence of those involved.

    That a crazy became involved, because of internet investigators was inevitable.

    Most of these “so called” Conspiracy Theories only arise because some people actually READ documents, books, or other information put out by the actual people or organisations implicated in the conspiracies and watch it as it becomes public policy or is acted upon by the groups or government.

    Once someone brings it to the public it either becomes a victim of a misinformation campaign or wild speculation. Very few are made up out of whole cloth.

    Easy example: The Trilateral Commission, in their original mission statement, they said they were working to bring about a New World Economic Order. When George H.W. Bush & Bill Clinton (members or former members of the Trilateral Commission) started making speeches about the New World Order people began to investigate in order to see what they stood for and to scrutinise its membership. The group’s own publications have lead to almost every “Conspiracy Theory” that is out there and that everyone finds so outrageous, with the possible exceptions of Alien Invasions and the Bavarian Illuminati.

    When someone says Globalists are working to bring about a global fascist state, it brings you back to David Rockefeller, The Trilateral Commission, and all the other organisations he is the founder, or long time high ranking member of.

    Naturally there is much that is only speculation or down right misinformation but at least you could know enough that when groups or organisations are viewed with suspicion, that this is the why and the wherefore of it all.

    Of course they don’t use the word fascist anywhere but the political philosophy alone leads one to that conclusion.


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    As a Stalinist, I'm obviously on the fence when it comes to allegations of rich people doing criminal things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    That is not what he said...
    But from your reply, I presume you are a follower of the Conspiracy theory.

    Here is a summary of the PizzaGate saga by the BBC
    www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985
    It is exactly what he said: "Ridiculous conspiracy theories becoming too close to mainstream"

    With the use of the word "mainstream" not "reality", unless it was a typo, hooahguy said ridiculous conspiracy theories that become widely known about, not proven to not be ridiculous.

    And yes I am a follower of the conspiracy in that I have read through it and find reason to suspect some awful things have been happening behind the scenes in the Clinton campaign, whether this resteraunt has anything to do with it is a minor detail and something the feds should be looking into not the denizens of reddit or this gun toting imbecile.
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    Just a couple of words for this - beyond worrying. When facts are all of a sudden irrelevant, we have a huge problem on our hands.
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    I found the BBC Article helpful in explaining why LeftEyeNine was taken up with this conspiracy, I was wondering why he was the one to bring it up. Turns out, it was used as a propaganda stunt by Erdogan to try to obscure domestic issues and abuse.

    Child Abuse in the UK is taken very seriously. With the Jimmy Saville investigations, and the current high-profile Fifa investigation with Football coaches grooming young footballers. Such "In your face" conspiracy would be investigated and dealt with swiftly by authorities. In fact, authorities would have looked after the Reddit material themselves, because it is in their interest to do so. If there was anything behind it, it would be dealt with.

    Even in the US, they were investigating Anthony Weiner due to Sexting minors. It was his Laptop which was seized and investigated, which led to an potential reopening of the Clinton case by the FBI Director before the end of the election which cost Clinton the presidency. I am pretty sure if there was smoke, they would be all over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    With the use of the word "mainstream" not "reality", unless it was a typo, hooahguy said ridiculous conspiracy theories that become widely known about, not proven to not be ridiculous.
    It is clear from intent, that Hooahguy was is expressing disapproval over the fact 'ridiculous conspiracy theories' are becoming closer to 'mainstream', in terms of popularity and spread. He further attributes this spread in causing to happen. He is not advocating or supporting it in any shape or form.
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    It is linked to a dismissal word, "ridicule-ous" as in "worthy of ridicule", through its use his opinion is clearly stated, as is yours.

    As for its spread as a turkish ploy, that is a poor reason to dismiss it. Pizzagate came from internet denisens extrapolating information gathered from the podesta emails. That it became mainstream from the actions of Turkey is ultimately irrelevant to it's veracity.

    As for the lack of investigation I think you are woefully underestimating the ammount of collusion with hillary that infested the obama administration
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    It seems pretty clear (to me) that it's a fabrication.
    Most of the threads are false, the few facts amount to bupkiss and the conclusions are delusional.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...elieve-it.html
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    It's not usually me doing this but first the wonkett and now thedailybeast, have you considered that your primary sources might be a tad biased Bunny?
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