Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
The blaming of Russia for the hacked emails is more excuse than anything else. The DNC emails were insider leaks. Pedesta’s emails were the result of him losing his smartphone. Where Russia may play a part is in Hillary’s Private Server. The unsecured server containing highly classified information and the revelations of the Pay for Play. It was hacked several times and not just by one party. If anything should have influenced the election it was Hillary’s own stupidity and obvious lies to cover it up.

The emails were not that critical in deciding the election. Those who were voting for Clinton simply ignored them and called it a Russian Conspiracy without a shred of proof.

Those who were disposed to accept the emails were never disposed to vote for Clinton in the first place. The releases were only a morale factor. The entire election was an exercise in Cognitive Dissonance.

People who voted for Clinton did so because she was not a Republican, despite her baggage.
People who voted for Trump fell into different camps. They voted for him because he was a Republican or they voted for him because he was not seen as part of the establishment.
There were very few voters who were influenced by logic or reason. Even the top two 3rd party candidates were seriously flawed.

The controversy now rests on the deep state trying to regain control of the narrative. Russia is the traditional boogieman. If it were only Anonymous Hackers they lose the moral high ground.

As to my remarks on propaganda, it was only a quality judgment. Propaganda is ubiquitous. Every government, organisation, and corporate interest wants to tell you what to think and none of them want you to exercise critical thinking. Choosing to believe one set of propaganda over another is just lazy and stupid. None of it is in your personal interest. It is far more likely to do harm than good.

Belief is accepting someones word for it. I suggest you put aside belief and try to acquire some actual knowledge about what you are being told and leave emotional factors by the wayside. It is not easy or simple but no one has your interests at heart the way you do.
Whatever your own suspicions about your own government, and I suspect that Americans can afford to be blase about the Russian threat as the Soviets never really infiltrated them, I am utterly confident that the Russians have no well meaning for us, having both read up on our secret agencies during WWII and noting that many of the most influential figures were Soviet agents, and having been part of the British Left that has long resisted the infiltration of Russian influence (and ultimately failed). I don't know if my own government means well for me, but I certainly know that the Russians don't.