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  1. #1321

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Hughes View Post
    I was quite certain that you were lying.

    My opening post was a multilayered extravaganza, but the initial inspiration came from your ludicrous claim.

    I supported you, and continue to believe that you are most likely town, because it's a bloody idiotic thing to do if you're actually scum, and is still most likely to end up with you getting lynched.
    Visor/Winston never w/w

    This post is probably more for me than the rest of you but let it be known that I said it
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  2. #1322

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Watcher being a role in this game surprises me greatly, as it's not exactly a fun role but it makes.sense with the setup

    Just wondering if it makes 5 wolves total likely cause I think it might which is annoying, given the voting mechanics can likely be pro wolf
    The voting mechanics seem almost heavily pro wolf to the point where I was legitimately surprised a wolf actually got lynched

    I figured it would be d1 mash syndrome amplified to the extreme but I think the fact that there actually really multiple representatives actually makes it wonkily balanced because it takes away wolf number power and replaces it with a single wolf with a louder voice
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  3. #1323

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    He had something going on with he would be willing to vote me for rep, or some such; he may have bee the one who said I was better than an easily-pocketed Dp. I don't remember the details so won't comment on it further right now.

    From Monty's wall of quotes I'd say that choxorn related spew throws a little shade on Cuth and on GH for the soft town leans, and probably a little more than than on Monstrobro for what seems like a particularly contorted slight-villa read on choxorn.

    I will need to go back and verify for myself that Monty didn't leave anything out.

    You must have learned something from reactions to your double-voter claim.
    I don't remember if I villa read choxorn early or not but I definitely wanted him lynched over both barto and cuthillius
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  4. #1324

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Just some very basic sorting to see where we stand.

    seemingly consensus village

    Renata
    Cass
    Dp
    atheotes

    personally I like:

    Jabbz
    Winston

    Lots to go on but fear they could fool me:
    Visor?
    Schema?

    Little to go on but nothing's alarming me:
    dicetosser1

    Confusing as heck
    Montmorency

    Dubious for tunnel on Jabbz?
    Zack

    Ought to be townier
    GH

    Iffy:

    Cuthilius
    Monstrbro

    Damn near nothing to go on at all; these are why you know I'm not the vig:

    BSmith
    Csargo
    Riedquat
    El Barto
    Al Sipsclar


    Individual categories not sorted.
    What makes me so "iffy" from your perspective?
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  5. #1325

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    The Al Sipsclar post from choxorn at the end of the day ALMOST felt like a desperate attempt to spew a wolf clear but it's so little information it really could go either way

    I want to say its something, but it's probably nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    I don't remember if I villa read choxorn early or not but I definitely wanted him lynched over both barto and cuthillius
    Did you say so? Because you definitely did villa read choxorn -- it's right there in Monty's wall of words that you said you were so impressed by. Didn't actually read it,did you?

  7. #1327

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    I kinda think El Barto is a villager? I'm not sure I have the stones to make that read confidently but his post about me when he said he wasn't sure about what it was that I did that pinged him pseudo pocketed me

    I don't think my villager list has changed you're all villagery and we lynched a wolf
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  8. #1328

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Did you say so? Because you definitely did villa read choxorn -- it's right there in Monty's wall of words that you said you were so impressed by. Didn't actually read it,did you?
    At the end of the day I asked him "wow is that really all you have to say?" Then said "glgl" but, yeah I said "don't lynch cuth" and "El barto seems like a meh lynch" so yeah, by PoE I was most supporting choxorn

    I already explained to you I play this game backwards. I'd hve voted choxorn if my vote mattered at all
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  9. #1329

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    Before you get to my reversal, Monstr - and @Jabbz - here's Visor's recent reminder on how he likes to approach certain things in towngame.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Barto View Post
    my vanilla townie and scum games have become indistinguishable, as in both I just aim to survive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    you do know that when you are a vanilla townie you WANT to draw a nightkill right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    a) I want to die
    b) I am the only person I fully trust to make the right decisions?
    Vitiate Man.

    History repeats the old conceits
    The glib replies, the same defeats


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  10. #1330

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    And if choxorn is who you asked me to I remember explicitly stating "lightly villagery because 3 posts and most people are villagers most of the time"

    That's all gone when you come in at EoD going "lol lynch this guy who hasn't been in the thread for hours even though this vote doesn't matter also I have nothing else to say."

    Thats not even remotely villagery
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  11. #1331

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    I kinda suspect cuth a little bit because that could have been a "I need to save choxorn and myself " play at EoD going after sooh

    She was obviously always what she said she was

    I know that goes back on what I said about cuth and my villager list earlier but I need to air it out

    Plus iirc he was the one saying she was acting how she was always acting

    Then suddenly pr claim and she's wolfy
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  12. #1332

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    It sucks because I know that it's really tough to make the right call in this game I just can't tell whether he legitimately suspected her or just needed her dead
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  13. #1333

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    again

    or maybe not again given i didn't go into this as much earlier

    he is going after people less like a bitter pedantic normal visor

    i genuinely don't think he believes what he's saying

    his arguments and defenses of himself sounds like he thinks sooh is scummy but that he knows he's scum

    and it does feel a tiniest bit cftwr to me
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    i was taking issue with your stance of only/most noticable person without towny posts>scum

    i think that position is contrived

    particularly given that i personally am seeing sooh's normal behavior

    and i'm not becoming less convinced that you're scum

    but mostly not because of the push
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    yeah sooh's probably scum

    i don't suppose i could convince you to claim your actual role, sooh
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    renata do you want dp to end up as rep

    if so vote him

    if not either vote yourself or myself

    we only have like an hour left and i'm going to leave soonish
    This is all stuff that happened around the time the wagons were forming to cuth-choxorn and it seemed like he was trying to take his district and replace choxorn with sooh

    I mean, that would give tons of credence to El barto being a villager, which would make Winston more likely to be a wolf and also I suspect Winston, so thanks to confirmation bias this is all now guaranteed to be true your welcome

    (It's not because cuth has a village list that lessens support of this theory in that it doesn't include any of the potential wolf candidates)

    But who knows. It seems like one of him and visor is likely to be a wolf at least
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  14. #1334

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    Also Winston made a villagery post today

    I just don't like games where all the scum are in the low volume players it's boring
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  15. #1335

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    Monstrbro
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    Zack
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    Renata
    Posts 123
    Montmorency
    Posts 116
    Visor
    Posts 95
    Cass_
    Posts 84
    Cuthillius
    Posts 72
    Sooh
    Posts 53
    Dp101
    Posts 49
    Schema
    Posts 47
    atheotes
    Posts 45
    Winston Hughes
    Posts 40
    Jabbz
    Posts 29
    GeneralHankerchief
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    Askthepizzaguy
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    dicetosser1
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    El Barto
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    Csargo
    Posts 5
    Choxorn
    Posts 4
    BSmith
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    Riedquat
    Posts 1
    Al Sipsclar
    Posts 1

    I mean for real tho
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  16. #1336

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    Either one or more of the 1 posters is scum or we have a deepwolf and that's just a fact
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  17. #1337

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    I kinda suspect cuth a little bit because that could have been a "I need to save choxorn and myself " play at EoD going after sooh

    She was obviously always what she said she was

    I know that goes back on what I said about cuth and my villager list earlier but I need to air it out

    Plus iirc he was the one saying she was acting how she was always acting

    Then suddenly pr claim and she's wolfy
    except there was literally no threat towards me

    cass was never going to choose me as the lynch

    i thought the pr claim was bad

    i thought visor got more towny nearer the end

  18. #1338

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    Either one or more of the 1 posters is scum or we have a deepwolf and that's just a fact
    i don't think it's a stretch to say that there's probably a -10-poster wolf

  19. #1339

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    how do you feel about gh

  20. #1340

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    [QUOTE=Cuthillius;2053730455]except there was literally no threat towards me

    cass was never going to choose me as the lynch

    i thought the pr claim was bad

    i thought visor got more towny nearer the end [/spoiler]

    I am taking all possibilities into account

    I am far from lynching you first, I just needed to say that before it killed me from the inside.
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  21. #1341

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    how do you feel about gh
    I think he has had like 2 scummy posts and a bunch of non indicative ones
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  22. #1342

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    Lemme reiso him
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  23. #1343

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Morning all.

    Slight scumleans for everyone who was going on about mechanics, etc. a few pages back. That's Sooh, Cass_, maybe one or two others, right?

    Slight townleans for the people who wanted us to get back on track.

    DP101 looks good, though I do agree with Winston on the "confidence" bit.
    Visor looks good.
    No read on Jabbz, not sure where all the positive leans are coming from.

    Winston seems relaxed and engaged, I'll give him a townlean for now.

    The case(s) I made for Zack being Chancellor after my initial long essay post are genuine and I have no plans on changing my Chancellor vote.
    This post is kinda all over the place and seems like a list of incomplete thoughts

    There was another post later that looked like it could have been something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    At the end of the day I asked him "wow is that really all you have to say?" Then said "glgl" but, yeah I said "don't lynch cuth" and "El barto seems like a meh lynch" so yeah, by PoE I was most supporting choxorn

    I already explained to you I play this game backwards. I'd hve voted choxorn if my vote mattered at all
    You avoided my question about whether you'd actually read Monty's wall. Obviously you didn't. So that's a strike: you went all hey look townie here on Monty for something you didn't read.

    By POE? Show me you ever actually supporting choxorn's lynch. As far as I'm aware you ended the day with "don't lynch cuth", "el barto lynch is meh" (both your words just now) and "choxorn seems slightly villa" (from Monty's wall).

  25. #1345

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Did choxorn make these reads when he was under suspicion, or before the fact?

    If it was before the fact, the rule is more likely to hold due to there being less of a chance of him intentionally trying to subvert it.
    This one seems a little w/w-y

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Yes. Cuthilius-Schema very possible. But as I said earlier, death of one of Visor or Cuth confirms alignment of the other. Visor is good lynch candidate.
    This is a false dichotomy though totally unrelated but I spotted it and yeah this isn't necessarily true in all cases, or even this one!
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  26. #1346

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    You avoided my question about whether you'd actually read Monty's wall. Obviously you didn't. So that's a strike: you went all hey look townie here on Monty for something you didn't read.

    By POE? Show me you ever actually supporting choxorn's lynch. As far as I'm aware you ended the day with "don't lynch cuth", "el barto lynch is meh" (both your words just now) and "choxorn seems slightly villa" (from Monty's wall).
    I play this game backwards and find villagers

    By PoE the only viable wagons were choxorn, cuth, El barto

    I didnt support cuth or El barto

    Ergo who did I support

    This is basic logic

    Sorry that I don't fully read everything but I just don't. It's not necessary for my process. I find villagers based on how they post. I don't specifically care what people post exactly most of the time, and especially not if it's in a giant post like that. No, I didnt fully read it but I caught the gist, and his clears from choxorn lined up with mine and while I don't agree with a visor lynch, I think it's villagery that he continues the line.

    I never avoided your question, I answered it exactly like this

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  27. #1347

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    And no, I didn't end the day with choxorn seems villa at all

    That is absolutely false
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    This is all stuff that happened around the time the wagons were forming to cuth-choxorn and it seemed like he was trying to take his district and replace choxorn with sooh

    I mean, that would give tons of credence to El barto being a villager, which would make Winston more likely to be a wolf and also I suspect Winston, so thanks to confirmation bias this is all now guaranteed to be true your welcome

    (It's not because cuth has a village list that lessens support of this theory in that it doesn't include any of the potential wolf candidates)

    But who knows. It seems like one of him and visor is likely to be a wolf at least
    I'll give you credit for the posts you quoted here, if not necessarily for the train of thought following. That is an absolutely ridiculous reversal on Sooh from Cuthillius and I don't see a townie explanation for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrbro View Post
    And no, I didn't end the day with choxorn seems villa at all

    That is absolutely false
    Show me you ever reversing yourself from where you said just that earlier in the day.

  30. #1350

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Show me you ever reversing yourself from where you said just that earlier in the day.
    Right at the end just like I said when I questioned him

    Prove that me questioning him isn't reversing myself

    Oh you can't that's right, because you're too busy stuck in your own biased perspective

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