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Zack 19:02 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Who else has Atheotes as town?
raises hand

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Cass_ 19:03 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
i think schema's about 89% town here
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?


I like the casual tone and humour is :) regardless of alignment but 'catching up' etc and reads left me feeling eh

- Why Mont/Renata/Winston? for scum? Town reads on myself and Dice possibly too easy.

Interactions when she came in seemed a good start, concerned they didn’t seem to go anywhere/follow up on/relate to reads.

She backtracks from Renata on general grounds quickly after Renata initiates a little pressure but still pushes back in that direction.
Not sure what to make of that atp.

Question to her about Atheotes because 'I noticed you commented on their reads list earlier' feels leading and I can't figure out the Town purpose/thought process behind it.

Similar one to Visor about GH because nothing was previously expressed in either of those directions.
Mentions she works better on interactions, pokes at Monstr and Visor questions but doesn't give own opinions. Also doesn't do any digging into other scum reads despite saying 'considering all their posts and any arguments made toward them and a lynch in that direction'.

TLDR, atp it feels more general than solvey. Leaning meh-possi-scumm. Want to see follow ups and more substantial reads.
@Schema

- What don't you like about Mont/Renata/Winston?

- What's your read/lean on Atheotes and why'd you ask Renata where she was at?

- Why'd you ask Visor for his opinion of GH? Where are you at on both of these players?

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Monstrdude 19:03 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Monstrbro:
I made a post about not liking those posts directly to winston before that

This isn't point a to b

It's from a to B back to a
In fact I'm surprised you don't remember because I spoke directly to you as well

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Cuthillius 19:03 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Zack:
why chox specifically
because we actually know each other

unlike other people

and he actually voted for me

and i don't think dp knows me as well

sooo there are really only two people that i could possibly say that about and chox is the only one where it would be realistic?

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Dp101 19:04 12-19-2016
limited time, 2-3 pages behind. Vote: Choxorn and Vote: Dp101

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Monstrdude 19:04 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Monstrbro:
In fact I'm surprised you don't remember because I spoke directly to you as well
And you claim to have iso'd me

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Sooh 19:04 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Zack:
raises hand
Why?

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Sooh 19:05 12-19-2016
Atheotes: You still haven't explained why El Barto was in your first list of scum leans.

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Zack 19:05 12-19-2016
cass i feel like you are always making long posts that are talking about "old" stuff

i don't think it's really alignment-indicative but i thought it was interesting, i'm pretty sure it's just a playstyle quirk

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Cuthillius 19:05 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Schema:
Alright, skimming-caught-up, but not very. Feel like I'm reading this game through a thick cloud.

Sooh, from where I read last night, has shown up and felt tonally town to me. Townie reaction to the votes received, not very redirective, which I'm happy about.

I don't think I ever vote Renata today. I don't know anyone's play style, but her consistency in tone and responsiveness to all players is a positive for me. More than anything. I need to do a full ISO on her because of the sheer amount of content. I go from bad to okay, not quite ready to go here.

Monstr's looked good to me since our bit of interaction last night, and pushes feel pretty genuine.

I'm really not feeling good about Visor and his "reaction" push on me last night, and might agree with Zack that his push back on Cuth felt a little forced. I'm not ready to make a read there, but it's a slot I'm watching.

But I also don't know Zack's play at all. Or anyone's.

ISOing Cuth as well.

I noticed Choxorn's three posts. Anyone have thoughts on about how much content I might expect from him?
i like

1)her thing on renata-she clearly elaborates why renata is where she is
2)mildly goes against thread consensus
3)actively gamesolving in a towny fashion

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Renata 19:05 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
renata, i'd be willing to give the representative power to you

i voted for myself and am campaigning not because i trust myself to make the proper decisions, but because i didn't have any townreads in my district other than dp

and i don't want dp to have that vote; not because he's scummy but because he's relatively inexperienced and somewhat pocket-prone

and i don't think has the current mafia personality to use the role properly

if you want it, i'll vote for you for rep
I'm not going to stop you, but I'm much more comfortable backseat gaming right now. For one thing ,the only reason I'm even here right now is because my son is sick -- I was planning to go out this afternoon and am definitely going to be out this time two days from now. My husband is talking about Christmas shopping right now even at that.

What's your feeling on dicetosser as decision-maker?

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Cass_ 19:05 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Who else has Atheotes as town?
Me for now. Feel like he's pulling trains of thought out of my head throughout, and he's seemed questioning/solvey.

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Cuthillius 19:05 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Dp101:
limited time, 2-3 pages behind. Vote: Choxorn and Vote: Dp101
would you be willing to vote renata

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Askthepizzaguy 19:05 12-19-2016
Tally as of 1020
Not verified yet, PM me with corrections.
<1.5 hours remain.

Straw polling results:

Person voting - District / Chancellor / Lynch

Schema --- Cass ---
Cuthillius Cuth Zack Sooh
Renata dp101 Cass Choxorn
Choxorn Cuth Zack ---
Dp101 Cuth GH Sooh
Jabbz dp101 Cass Zack
Dicetosser1 Dice Cass Monty

Winston Visor Cass El Barto
Bsmith Winston Visor Al Sips
Visor Visor Visor Cuthillius
Csargo Winston Cass Sooh
Riedquat Visor Visor Visor
El Barto El Barto El Barto Winston
Monstrbro Monstrbro Visor Winston

Montmorency GH Cass Visor
Al Sipsclar --- --- ---
Sooh Cass Sooh Zack
Cass_ --- --- ---
Generalhank GH Zack Sooh
Zack Zack Zack Jabbz
Atheotes Cass Winston choxorn


RESULTS SO FAR:

District One
Cuthillius leads the district with the support of 3:7 registered voters. Hardly a mandate, and his lead in the polls is tenuous, running on a campaign to change his name back to Cuthalion. dp101 is the nearest candidate with 2:7 registered voters supporting him. His platform confuses his supporters, mainly because he's supporting his opponent. Dicetosser1 is the only other candidate with any name recognition, unfortunately he gives speeches to supporters in empty arenas while wearing nothing but fuzzy dice in a strategic location. If Cuthillius is elected, he promises to lock Sooh up and investigate her emails. At least one undecided voter has yet to comment on the election.

District Two
Visor leads the district and is polling at (3:7), running on a campaign of slashing taxes for the middle class, but raising it for the upper class, and giving puppies to the poor. When asked how he will pay for it, he said "free trade", confusing everyone. Winston is in second place, running a long shot campaign against the current favorite, with only two supporters, not even including himself. Winston's strategy mainly involves electing Visor instead, curiously. And finally, El Barto is running a Quixotic campaign against the unstoppable Visor powerhouse, reminding people of Charles Doty, who couldn't even get his wife to vote for him. If Visor is elected, he promises to deport Cuthillius back to wherever he came from, probably the moon.

District Three
With several constituents not responding to pollsters, the race for district three is too close to call. Some people seem to support Cass, although she has yet to even accept the nomination to run for the district and is apparently unaware she's in the running. Noted four-star General Cornelius P. Hankerchief has announced his candidacy, and has even managed to win the support of his own campaign manager. Meanwhile, at Zack headquarters, the candidate sits alone in an unlit office with no electricity, heat, or running water, dreaming of at least being elected Chancellor. If Cass is elected, she promises to decide on a campaign platform. If GeneralHankerchief is elected, he promises to get at least five stars at his pirate-themed restaurant, noted for its ornate pocket squares. If Zack is elected, he promises to be even more Zack-like. It's unclear who the lynchee will be in this race.

Chancellor race
Cass: 7/21
Visor, Zack: 4/21
GH, El Barto, Winston, Sooh: 1/21

At Cass headquarters, supporters are cheering due to their lead in the polls. Supporters intend to inform Cass that she's about to be elected Chancellor anytime now, as she is blissfully unaware and still hasn't announced that she was even a candidate. She's in for a big surprise. Meanwhile, Visor and Zack are splitting the left wing vote, causing problems between the Judean people's front and the People's front of Judea, not to mention the Popular Front of Judea (Sooh). At the third party debates, El Barto promises to dismantle the entire federal structure and replace it with kitteh pictures.


Lynch
Who knows? Could be Sooh, could be Cuth, could be anyone at this rate. The leading candidates for the district races don't even agree on a suspect, so forming a united coalition in the currently divided Gameroom Congress could be difficult. Or it could be easy. I just do polls, don't ask me. They're usually wrong, too.


Editors note: This just in!
Poll does not reflect this updated information:
Originally Posted by Dp101:
limited time, 2-3 pages behind. Vote: Choxorn and Vote: Dp101
We will adjust our tallies accordingly.

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Zack 19:06 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Why?
something something T O A N

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Renata 19:06 12-19-2016
That's two game days from now. Wednesday I'll probably be around.

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Cuthillius 19:06 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Renata:
What's your feeling on dicetosser as decision-maker?
I don't have enough experience with him to say really, but i haven't read him either way and i don't feel like i can trust him.

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Schema 19:07 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Cass_:
@Schema

- What don't you like about Mont/Renata/Winston?

- What's your read/lean on Atheotes and why'd you ask Renata where she was at?

- Why'd you ask Visor for his opinion of GH? Where are you at on both of these players?
1) I'm better with Renata based on consistency and breadth of pushes. No bad feels there anymore today. Winston is more a weird gut feeling, not really aligning with posts he's made. Same thing with Monty, really, except that I have a thought and sometimes Monty says something that is the exact opposite of where my head goes, if we're talking mechanics and reads. But that might be more temperament. I need to read more specifically on what he has said since I was itt last night.

2) Atheotes hasn't done much that makes me go, "Look, there's a townie town." Just kind of hereabouts. I asked Renata because I was trying to sift reads and wanted to see how she responded to that, but I called it a night soon after and didn't make it back to see what kind of reply she gave. Hope she did.

3) I asked Visor for a read on GH because I hadn't noticed him saying much that direction. Reply from him was... unwilling, noncommittal. Didn't care for it.

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Zack 19:07 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Renata:
I'm not going to stop you, but I'm much more comfortable backseat gaming right now. For one thing ,the only reason I'm even here right now is because my son is sick -- I was planning to go out this afternoon and am definitely going to be out this time two days from now. My husband is talking about Christmas shopping right now even at that.

What's your feeling on dicetosser as decision-maker?
just shop on amazon, if you have prime i'm pretty sure they're giving free one-day shipping around this time of year (i know i had that option even though normally only 2-day shipping would be free)

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Schema 19:08 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
I don't have enough experience with him to say really, but i haven't read him either way and i don't feel like i can trust him.
Based on any evidence, or feels?

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Sooh 19:09 12-19-2016
Unvote
Unvote

Vote: Cass
Vote: Sooh


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Cuthillius 19:09 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Schema:
Based on any evidence, or feels?
again, no read

so basically the whole feels thing, yes?

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Zack 19:09 12-19-2016
love the flavor pizza

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Cass_ 19:09 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Zack:
cass i feel like you are always making long posts that are talking about "old" stuff

i don't think it's really alignment-indicative but i thought it was interesting, i'm pretty sure it's just a playstyle quirk
It is/I feel the same way and it's frustrating as hell. I find it hard to have a structured approach to solving, I start looking into one thing and get sidetracked into a million others trying to decide if my original thought was right or wrong.

I've asked for updates on game state/votes etc.

What new stuff is most relevant right now?

I've got maybe half hour before everyone wakes up.


Are you caught up?

Currently the rep for Div 3?

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Monstrdude 19:10 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Zack:
love the flavor pizza
+1000

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Zack 19:11 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Cass_:
It is/I feel the same way and it's frustrating as hell. I find it hard to have a structured approach to solving, I start looking into one thing and get sidetracked into a million others trying to decide if my original thought was right or wrong.

I've asked for updates on game state/votes etc.

What new stuff is most relevant right now?

I've got maybe half hour before everyone wakes up.


Are you caught up?

Currently the rep for Div 3?
i dunno read the update pizza just posted lol

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Sooh 19:12 12-19-2016
Unvote

Vote: Atheotes


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Cuthillius 19:12 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Zack:
love the flavor pizza
+ 1

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Zack 19:13 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Unvote

Vote: Atheotes
but why?

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Cass_ 19:14 12-19-2016
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
District Three
With several constituents not responding to pollsters, the race for district three is too close to call. Some people seem to support Cass, although she has yet to even accept the nomination to run for the district and is apparently unaware she's in the running. Noted four-star General Cornelius P. Hankerchief has announced his candidacy, and has even managed to win the support of his own campaign manager. Meanwhile, at Zack headquarters, the candidate sits alone in an unlit office with no electricity, heat, or running water, dreaming of at least being elected Chancellor. If Cass is elected, she promises to decide on a campaign platform. If GeneralHankerchief is elected, he promises to get at least five stars at his pirate-themed restaurant, noted for its ornate pocket squares. If Zack is elected, he promises to be even more Zack-like. It's unclear who the lynchee will be in this race.

Chancellor race
Cass: 7/21
Visor, Zack: 4/21
GH, El Barto, Winston, Sooh: 1/21

At Cass headquarters, supporters are cheering due to their lead in the polls. Supporters intend to inform Cass that she's about to be elected Chancellor anytime now, as she is blissfully unaware and still hasn't announced that she was even a candidate. She's in for a big surprise. Meanwhile, Visor and Zack are splitting the left wing vote, causing problems between the Judean people's front and the People's front of Judea, not to mention the Popular Front of Judea (Sooh). At the third party debates, El Barto promises to dismantle the entire federal structure and replace it with kitteh pictures.
ILY Pizza :D

FTR, I get the feels I'm partly being pushed up as Chancellor simply because I can't make decisions and will probably get stuck on something like colours for my campaign platform :D >.<

Lucky I work hard when choices are limited :D

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