Representative Democracy [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

Nobody actually suspects Cass, it was just said as a joke.

I know, but it needed to be said. Visor, do you want Barto lynched over Cuth (in your reads list)? Tally and stuff in 5 min.

[Montmorency]

Screw it, the last 20 posts probably aren't valuable.

Tally # B1
	Blue	Green	Red
DISTRICT ONE	Rep	Chancellor	Lynch
Schema	Schema
Cuthillius	Dp101		General Hankerchief
Renata	Dp101		Zack
Dp101	Dp101		Cuthilius
Jabbz	Dp101
dicetosser1			El Barto
DISTRICT TWO
Winston Hughes	Winston		El Barto
BSmith	Winston Hughes		Cuthilius
Visor	Winston Hughes		Cuthilius
Csargo	Winston
Riedquat
El Barto	El Barto
Monstrbro	Monstrbro		General Hankerchief
DISTRICT THREE
Montmorency	Cass
Al Sipsclar	Cass
Cass_
GeneralHankerchief	Cass
Zack			Cuthilius
atheotes

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Also, there's choxorn choosing [Jabbz] as the target for a bit of 'pro-town'' scolding.

Then again, couldn't it work the other way around just as well? As with Schema's observed "Al Sipsclar spew" from Choxorn's vote, it seems arguable in either direction.

oh yeah i forgot choxorn also elected cuth for no reason that i could tell

Cuth commented on this yesterday:

in our district, i could see scumchox electing me just because he thinks i would be a bad rep for town

what do you think of his comment that monty "makes good cases" then ignoring them to vote cuth, a case purported by the main person monty is casing

Well, the case on Visor as such has been abandoned, but from BSmith the stated reasoning was that he found the case against Cuth 'a little more compelling'. Null.

And dont think i didnt notice you trying to squirrel away from this convo with that whole Im not covering this again thing. I will just keep bringing it up and pounding away at you.

See here.

[Visor]

I know, but it needed to be said. Visor, do you want Barto lynched over Cuth (in your reads list)? Tally and stuff in 5 min.

Eh, if I could I'd kill them all in that group.

They're all about the same. Maybe Cuth a little more than Barto.

[Schema]

Tbh I'm pretty half-hearted about this game rn.

Only a townie idiot votes herself rep with a likely town Dp up for candidacy, blah blah.

Vote: Dp101

Not sure how I feel on the Cuth >> GH lynch vote. Would like to hear from @Zack as to why GH isn't a priority for him, since I'm assuming he has some meta to go off.
@Monstrbro, I believe you asked me my thoughts on Winston? I had iffy feels early in the game but he got townier for me. I haven't seen most of his D2 contributions though so I'll run le iso there today.

[GeneralHankerchief]

To be fair, half the thread isn't reading the thread tho

Gee I wonder why.

*continues skimming*

[GeneralHankerchief]

This is a public warning to cut down on the spam. Posts like the following:

i was going to watch a movie but now i'm all hot and bothered and want to join a boxing gym and film a montage

i'll shit post all night if I have to

etc. are not appreciated with the thread moving as fast as it is.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'll be honest, I'm half-tempted to vote for Monstrbro and/or Zack to be lynched simply because it will cut down on my reading time and perhaps allow half of the other players to get a word in, but the problem is that I just don't see their interactions, particularly Monstrbro's, as something that a mafioso could pull off. Especially with regards to volume.

As it appears Cuthilius is my main competition, even though I'm obviously not going to get elected district rep anytime soon, I'm just going to do the sensible thing here and

Vote: Cuthilius

There was probably a case on him at some point but I couldn't remember the finer details in the Black Hole of Calcutta that is... well... this entire game, basically.

[Riedquat]

I'm sorry for my participation level, I'm still like 5 pages behind in my readings!

While I catch up will vote: Winston and FoS: Visor for that hunch on me... that was odd...

[Renata]

Based off of this exchange I want to vote Zack, Visor and Cuth all at once, because I feel that at least half of their posts have been more about calling the other guy names rather than solving.

This guy gets it. Lol.

Still catching up.

[Cass_]

I'm sorry for my participation level, I'm still like 5 pages behind in my readings!

While I catch up will vote: Winston and FoS: Visor for that hunch on me... that was odd...

You're not the only one behind. Hello.

Why vote Winston?

[Visor]

OoG: After D1, the problem with a game setup like this has become evident. Only certain people will ever get power, and most people are consigned to do nothing for a lot of the game.

[Renata]

well at least the few people who are soft-cleared and will continue to be elected are barely participating

This seems towny, I think? I had a similar moment recently.

[Montmorency]

OoG: After D1, the problem with a game setup like this has become evident. Only certain people will ever get power, and most people are consigned to do nothing for a lot of the game.

Do nothing but clutter the thread.

Case in point:

This is a public warning to cut down on the spam. Posts like the following:

Somehow, GH posting this increases my desire to shitpost dicetosser by claiming Scummacus. But I won't do it. Because I'm better than that.

[Renata]

Why BSmith? I know you haven't read much, but you have to give better reasons than that.

Vote: Al Sipsclar

I missed the minuscule bit of choxorn spew about Bsmith here. I think it's just opportunistic to place a vote (whether bussing or not), but eh. It's a thing.

Should check where Al has BSmith is his more recent reads list.

[Montmorency]

I missed the minuscule bit of choxorn spew about Bsmith here. I think it's just opportunistic to place a vote (whether bussing or not), but eh. It's a thing.

Should check where Al has BSmith is his more recent reads list.

Deep demographic. Shouldn't say much under any circumstances.

From town to scum:

Cass_
Renata
Dp101

atheotes
dicetosser1
Jabbz
Visor

Monstrbro
Zack
Winston

BSmith
CSargo
Riedquat

Monty
GH
El Barto
Schema
Cuthillius

[Renata]

I'll be honest, I'm half-tempted to vote for Monstrbro and/or Zack to be lynched simply because it will cut down on my reading time and perhaps allow half of the other players to get a word in, but the problem is that I just don't see their interactions, particularly Monstrbro's, as something that a mafioso could pull off. Especially with regards to volume.

As it appears Cuthilius is my main competition, even though I'm obviously not going to get elected district rep anytime soon, I'm just going to do the sensible thing here and

Vote: Cuthilius

There was probably a case on him at some point but I couldn't remember the finer details in the Black Hole of Calcutta that is... well... this entire game, basically.

Meh.

[Renata]

Deep demographic. Shouldn't say much under any circumstances.

A little unusually high given he apparently saw something negative about BSmith previously.

[Visor]

Hey Renata, who do you think is town outside of the (dp/ath/etc) grouping and scum reads?

[Montmorency]

A little unusually high given he apparently saw something negative about BSmith previously.

How's that? You mean the vote? That's the new D1 tradition between BSmith and Al Sips I believe, since the events of Futuramafia. They vote each other.

[Renata]

vote: gh

I guess? There's just no there there for me. He hasn't even tried to make a case, and that was the one thing I was able to read as genuine from him in last game, before I got led down the garden path into suspecting him. I don't want to believe it'd be that easy, but .

I don't have a problem with cuthillius being today's lynch, but from my current position of privilege in not needing to give a flip about how I come off, I'll say it wouldn't shock me if he's a villager. Like, the Sooh progression is truly atrocious, but the Schema part of Visor's case was just plain wrong. Without meta on Cuth, I can't go past that point on someone who's not generally pinging me on tone.

[Renata]

How's that? You mean the vote? That's the new D1 tradition between BSmith and Al Sips I believe, since the events of Futuramafia. They vote each other.

Oh, ok. That makes more sense.

[Visor]

vote: gh

I guess? There's just no there there for me. He hasn't even tried to make a case, and that was the one thing I was able to read as genuine from him in last game, before I got led down the garden path into suspecting him. I don't want to believe it'd be that easy, but .

I don't have a problem with cuthillius being today's lynch, but from my current position of privilege in not needing to give a flip about how I come off, I'll say it wouldn't shock me if he's a villager. Like, the Sooh progression is truly atrocious, but the Schema part of Visor's case was just plain wrong. Without meta on Cuth, I can't go past that point on someone who's not generally pinging me on tone.

Either seem fine to me.

(I still think his posts on Schema are bad even if they make more sense then they did before)

Opportunistic, etc.

I mean he town reads Schema for scum reading me, and then sheeps my read on Sooh despite scum reading me and me having dropped the read altogether for hours.

[Renata]

Hey Renata, who do you think is town outside of the (dp/ath/etc) grouping and scum reads?

I had a list yesterday. I'll find it. It's not too different from yours, mostly just some shifting around in the middle layers.

[Renata]

Either seem fine to me.

(I still think his posts on Schema are bad even if they make more sense then they did before)

Opportunistic, etc.

I mean he town reads Schema for scum reading me, and then sheeps my read on Sooh despite scum reading me and me having dropped the read altogether for hours.

Yeah, I know. Like I said the Sooh thing is atrocious.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Either seem fine to me.

(I still think his posts on Schema are bad even if they make more sense then they did before)

Opportunistic, etc.

I mean he town reads Schema for scum reading me, and then sheeps my read on Sooh despite scum reading me and me having dropped the read altogether for hours.

I want people to make a note of those who are pushing my lynch for "not making a case" and yet totally giving people like Csargo/Al Sips/Riedquat etc. a pass when the only difference seems to be that I'm at least posting more. I'm pretty sure at least one of the people on my wagon, especially those who are using this logic, are scum looking for an easy victim.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I want people to make a note of those who are pushing my lynch for "not making a case" and yet totally giving people like Csargo/Al Sips/Riedquat etc. a pass when the only difference seems to be that I'm at least posting more. I'm pretty sure at least one of the people on my wagon, especially those who are using this logic, are scum looking for an easy victim.

This was supposed to quote Renata's vote of me and not the Visor post, apologies.

[Cass_]

So you're saying you'll tunnel me until I die?

i'm saying i'm aiming for your lynch today

Cuth, of your whole push on Sooh that I saw, this is the part I really have trouble seeing fit in a possi-Towny mindset.

I don't agree with pushing claimed PRs D1, but if you had a really strong feeling she was Scum, Ok.

BUT then why only aim for her lynch D1? Why not tunnel her to death? Explain the logic/what you were thinking/what would have changed for you if she'd survived?

[Renata]

My previous reads list. Move dicetosser up above Jabbz, Zack up a couple slots maybe?, Schema down a couple mostly by virtue of not having anything towny to add since day one.

Oh, move monstrbro up some, but there's still that one post with regards to choxorn that really bugs. I'll see if I can find it.

Just some very basic sorting to see where we stand.

seemingly consensus village

Renata
Cass
Dp
atheotes

personally I like:

Jabbz
Winston

Lots to go on but fear they could fool me:
Visor?
Schema?

Little to go on but nothing's alarming me:
dicetosser1

Confusing as heck
Montmorency

Dubious for tunnel on Jabbz?
Zack

Ought to be townier
GH

Iffy:

Cuthilius
Monstrbro

Damn near nothing to go on at all; these are why you know I'm not the vig:

BSmith
Csargo
Riedquat
El Barto
Al Sipsclar


Individual categories not sorted.

[Monstrdude]

My previous reads list. Move dicetosser up above Jabbz, Zack up a couple slots maybe?, Schema down a couple mostly by virtue of not having anything towny to add since day one.

Oh, move monstrbro up some, but there's still that one post with regards to choxorn that really bugs. I'll see if I can find it.

I've already posted exactly what it says twice in the thread

I cleared him barely early d1

I have no shame for that. NONE AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME FEEL ANY

[Renata]

I want people to make a note of those who are pushing my lynch for "not making a case" and yet totally giving people like Csargo/Al Sips/Riedquat etc. a pass when the only difference seems to be that I'm at least posting more. I'm pretty sure at least one of the people on my wagon, especially those who are using this logic, are scum looking for an easy victim.

If you're a villager, sure. Who are these people (besides me)? Why wouldn't you be keeping a list yourself?

I don't know what to do with the non-poster crowd. Unless they make a mistake like choxorn did there's usually nothing to go on. I was hoping for a vig, but there's no sign of one.