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    That's power.
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    fine with Barto

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    Eh doesn't matter to me

    Happy shooting cass glgl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    so much for democracy eh
    This is representative democracy.

    Pretty much nobody gets what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    yes clearly

    i mean it's a oversimplification of things but there's no time for anything else


    Do people have massive issues taking out inactive Barto and relooking at Cuth/Zack/GH tomorrow?

    IIRC there were links with Barto here and there anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Hughes View Post
    This is representative democracy.

    Pretty much nobody gets what they want.
    i was more referring to cass' d1 was largely spent advocating for a system where reps just voted how their constituents did

    and she's not really done that at all lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass_ View Post
    Do people have massive issues taking out inactive Barto and relooking at Cuth/Zack/GH tomorrow?

    IIRC there were links with Barto here and there anyway?
    Deal with the content you have from him as much as the inactivity, please.

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    Consider it capital expended, Cass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass_ View Post
    Do people have massive issues taking out inactive Barto and relooking at Cuth/Zack/GH tomorrow?

    IIRC there were links with Barto here and there anyway?
    dunno what else need's to be "relooked" at with cuth he's been gone into in gory detail

    but sure shooting barto is fine

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    There's no game related content from Barto other than referencing himself

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    :30 good

    :31 not a legal vote

    :32 bad, no posting.
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    Final thoughts before time. I don't think Zack is likely scum, but I understand why Winston is voting for him. Of the remaining, votes I haven't gotten any screaming scum tells from GH or El Barto. To be fair though, I went through most of day 2 with my cognitive processes impaired, so my reads are questionable at best. Gl all.

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    For what it's worth, one thing a dead Barto is good for is his reads.

    The fact he suspected Zack has no bearing on my mentioning this, btw.

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    though i think barto has been scummy

    don't shoot him because "inactive"

    i've briefly touched on this but no one actually bothers to read most of my posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass_ View Post
    There's no game related content from Barto other than referencing himself
    Then go for it I guess

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    :31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    though i think barto has been scummy

    don't shoot him because "inactive"

    i've briefly touched on this but no one actually bothers to read most of my posts
    That might have to do with the volume... Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabbz View Post
    That might have to do with the volume... Just saying.
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    Tally looks like this, checking for discrepancies. PM me with any.

    Person District/Chancellor/Lynch

    Schema dp101 / Cuth
    Cuth dp101 / GH
    Renata dp101 / Monty
    Dp101 dp101 / GH
    Jabbz dp101 / Bsmith
    Dice --- / Barto

    Winston Winston / Zack
    Bsmith Winston / Cuth
    Visor Winston / Visor
    Csargo Winston / ---
    Riedquat Winston / GH
    Barto Visor / ---
    Monstr Monstr / GH

    Monty Cass / Cuth
    Al Sipsclar Cass / Monty
    Cass_ Cass / Barto
    GH Cass / Cuth
    Zack Zack / Cuth
    Atheotes Cass / GH

    Dp would be re-elected district 1, is voting GH

    Winston would be elected district 2, is voting Zack

    Cass would be re-elected district 3, is voting Barto

    Cass would decide tie-break.
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    Those of you waiting for a decision may not get one right away-

    Just letting you know, so you don't need to wait and refresh every minute.

    It's possible the result will be posted in 24 hours.
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    December, 2018
    Madam Chancellor's Palace

    aka Casa de Cass-a


    A nameless bureaucrat with a pallid complexion approached the throne of the Chancellor in her palatial office, and knelt before her. "Your majesty, I have word from the regional governors. We can now report that dp101 has retained control over district one, and that Winston has achieved victory in district two. And you, your highness, obviously retain absolute control over the third and final district. Everything is proceeding as planned."

    "Umm... who are you? And what plan are you talking about? Also, I don't know about this whole 'your majesty' and 'your highness' thing..." said Cass.

    A hooded figure appeared behind Cass, and frightened the bejeezus out of her. "Do not be too concerned, Madam Chancellor. Honorifics are merely a way of showing respect. The people love you, and this is how they've chosen to show it. You have done well."

    "Um, right. So, about that whole daily execution thing: Can't we just skip it and offer people free cheese and crackers instead?"

    "Of course Mistress, if that is what you wish, we can do away with democracy entirely. You don't have to do as the people have asked. You have the power, and no one would think twice. You know you'll always have our support." said the hooded figure.

    Cass bristled a bit. "I think I preferred 'Madam Chancellor'... actually, wait, what am I saying? No, I didn't. But, who are these people on these monitors that I'm seeing in... handcuffs and chains?"

    "We have already done the exalted Madam Chancellor the courtesy of preparing for your daily... decision. These men have all been tried and convicted in a fair trial of being the guilty traitors among us, who all wish to do away with your Madam highness' government and install some kind of totalitarian state, we think. These monsters deserve no pity, no mercy. All you have to do is to decide which of them must be done away with first! Isn't that grand?"

    "Well, as long as they were given a fair trial. We still have those in our country, yes?"

    "As Madam Chancellor wishes, certainly, unless, of course, you wish to have the show trials done away with entirely? I doubt very much if the people will mind. They'll know it is for the greater good of us all. Are you prepared to push the button?"

    "What button? Also, what did you just say about show trials?"

    "These buttons here have just been installed on your Madam majesty's throne, all you have to do is press one of them and we'll be concluded with our official business for the day, and you can skip straight to the banquet hall, where we have prepared a massive feast in your Madam's honor. And anything else you desire will be yours, no questions asked..." whispered the hooded figure.

    "Hang on a second..." said Cass, getting up from her throne.

    As she did, she pushed one of the buttons, and on the monitor, she saw one of the prisoners burst into flames, and in a few seconds, was completely vaporized.

    "What just happened to that man?" asked Cass.

    "Well, it's a bit complicated Madam Chancellor, but to put it simply, we have some really large polished mirrors in orbit, and if enough of them are angled correctly, they turn pure and beautiful natural sunlight into absolutely remorseless justice."

    Cass gulped.

    "Now, if you please, Madam, come this way. There's fun and frivolity to be had" the hooded figure said.

    Cass had one last question as she was being led away. "He was guilty, right? As long as he was guilty..."

    "Yes, of course, Madam Chancellor, of course. He was a threat to our democracy."

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    A man was executed by the state. He was...

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    Generalhankerchief
    And it turns out, he was...

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    An innocent villager, with no special powers.
    Upon hearing the news, Madam Chancellor's supporters cheered for her again.

    Everything was proceeding according to plan.



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    If I don't get all night actions I'll give an extension. Let's just try to keep this night short, mmk.

    It is still night, don't post.
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    Results of night will be posted in delayed fashion as we're having Christmas Eve dinner with family. So might be delayed past the usual 8:30 my time start by an hour or so. I dunno.

    Due to Christmas, the following day phase will be extended by a day. So you're getting an extra day, after a late start to Day Phase. That'll end up giving you more time than you would have had, but also fits my schedule. Even with the holidays, you should be able to show up and vote, but for this phase only, if you don't vote, it will be forgiven with no consequences other than shame on your family name for generations to come.

    It is still Night.
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    Retaliation for the state-sponsored killings...

    While Madam Chancellor-for-life Cass was still massively popular among the people, a small but dedicated resistance movement struck a blow deep inside her administration. This time, they targeted one of her closest allies and associates. He had been tied to his office chair and set on fire, and a message was scrawled on the outside of the building, written in pig's blood.

    "For Generalhankerchief!"

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    dp101 was killed. Vanilla town.


    Still alive:


    DISTRICT ONE


    1. Schema
    2. Cuthillius
    3. Renata
    4. Jabbz
    5. dicetosser1


    DISTRICT TWO [must be redrawn]


    1. Winston Hughes
    2. BSmith
    3. Visor
    4. Fenn
    5. Riedquat
    6. El Barto
    7. Monstrbro


    DISTRICT THREE


    1. Montmorency
    2. Al Sipsclar
    3. Cass_ [Chancellor-for-life]
    4. Zack
    5. atheotes



    Districts will need to be re-drawn by the Chancellor within 24 hours.

    New district representatives will need to be elected.

    No chancellor election.

    Today you will be electing district representatives and voting to lynch someone only.
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    @El Barto
    @Monstrbro
    @Montmorency
    @Cass_
    @Renata
    @Al Sipsclar
    @Cuthillius
    @Zack
    @dicetosser1
    @atheotes
    @BSmith
    @Winston Hughes
    @Jabbz
    @Schema
    @Visor
    @Fenn
    @Riedquat


    IT IS DAY. YOU MAY POST.

    Day lasts 3 days from the usual :30 minute mark. (About an hour ago)

    Posting minimums will be ignored today due to the holidays.

    Try not to go crazy with the posting with the extra time you were given.
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    Why do you keep voting el barto then lynching someone else

    I've spent all night wondering if it makes sense for the wolf team to be exactly choxorn/El Barto/Cuth/Cass

    I think it kinda does

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    As a sidenote, I'll try to post less and be more genteel but no promises. Can't help the way I am sometimes.

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    Sorry, I ninja-edited "civil" to "genteel" in the above post

    full disclosure

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    I have some stuff to say but sorry, I just got my Christmas pizza. Give me 15-30.
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    Person District/Chancellor/Lynch

    Schema Renata Cass GH
    Cuthillius Cuth Zack Sooh
    Renata dp101 Cass Choxorn
    Choxorn Cuth Zack Al Sipsclar
    Dp101 dp101 GH choxorn
    Jabbz dp101 Cass Zack
    Dicetosser1 Dice Cass Monty

    Winston Visor Cass El Barto
    Bsmith Visor Visor Al Sips
    Visor Visor Visor Cuthillius
    Csargo Winston Cass Sooh
    Riedquat Visor Visor Visor
    El Barto El Barto El Barto Winston
    Monstrbro Monstr Monstr Winston

    Montmorency GH Cass Visor
    Al Sipsclar Zack Cass Bsmith
    Sooh Cass Cass atheotes
    Cass_ Cass Renata El Barto
    Generalhank GH Zack Sooh
    Zack Zack Zack Jabbz
    Atheotes Cass Winston El barto


    District Representative:
    Dp101: Representative for District 1 (3/7 votes, winner)
    Visor: Representative for District 2 (4/7 votes, winner)
    Cass: Representative for District 3 (3/7 votes, winner)

    Chancellor: Cass (9/21 votes, winner)
    Zack: 4
    Visor: 3

    Lynch vote: Tie.
    Dp votes for Choxorn
    Visor votes for Cuthillius
    Cass votes for El Barto
    choxorn-Cuth-ElBarto tied.

    Pop vote:
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    El Barto: 3
    Sooh: 3
    choxorn: 2
    Al Sips: 2
    Visor: 2
    Winston: 2
    Zack: 1
    Monty: 1
    GH: 1
    Cuth: 1
    Bsmith: 1
    atheotes: 1
    Jabbz: 1


    Cass, in her position as chancellor, decides tie.
    She can lynch her own suspect, El Barto, or lynch choxorn or Cuth. It’s up to her. But it must be between those three.
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Tally looks like this, checking for discrepancies. PM me with any.

    Person District/Chancellor/Lynch

    Schema dp101 / Cuth
    Cuth dp101 / GH
    Renata dp101 / Monty
    Dp101 dp101 / GH
    Jabbz dp101 / Bsmith
    Dice --- / Barto

    Winston Winston / Zack
    Bsmith Winston / Cuth
    Visor Winston / Visor
    Csargo Winston / ---
    Riedquat Winston / GH
    Barto Visor / ---
    Monstr Monstr / GH

    Monty Cass / Cuth
    Al Sipsclar Cass / Monty
    Cass_ Cass / Barto
    GH Cass / Cuth
    Zack Zack / Cuth
    Atheotes Cass / GH

    Dp would be re-elected district 1, is voting GH

    Winston would be elected district 2, is voting Zack

    Cass would be re-elected district 3, is voting Barto

    Cass would decide tie-break.

    Tallies for both days, spoilered for size.

    For Day 1, I don't think she was around for end of day. Maybe she believed Visor's doublevoter claim, reasoned it meant her vote wouldn't really matter so threw it on a teammate for bussing cred, then came back later to find a three-way tie between her 3 teammates and lynched the least important one.

    The on Day 2, after spending Day 1 talking nonstop about how the strategy should be for everyone to vote as normal then the district representatives vote according to their constituents, she completely discards this without discussing it further. Her district overwhelmingly voted for Cuth and she was the only person to vote for Barto. She explicitly asked people if they'd prefer Winston to vote for me or Cuth, multiple people responded with all of them voicing a preference for Cuth, then she instructed him to keep his vote on me anyways. Then despite her voting for Barto again, she decides to break the tie by voting for GH, which came out of nowhere, and he flipped town.

    She also was throwing some shade at me, commenting how I seemed unconcerned with a lot of people voting me Chancellor when it would have made her paranoid. First, that is nonsensical. Second, a LOT more people voted her than ever voted me, and not only did she not get paranoid about it (as she claimed she would have), she didn't even seem to acknowledge it whatsoever. When she was the only person around in the thread and I was talking with her, she got really uncomfortable and plain weird, demanding why I was "pressuring" her. It was really odd, and I just kind of brushed it aside at the time as a weird thing not to worry too much about, but combined with everything else I need to talk about it.

    I don't really think it's that crazy, because I just don't understand her voting and play on D2 as town. It makes no sense to me.

    Is there a vote mutiny option?

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