Representative Democracy [Concluded]

[Monstrdude]

I think it makes sense

I mean, like I said it's information rich. Monty being voted by the other to could be a distancing tactic, I guess

It just doesn't feel that way to me?

What about monty makes you think he's scummy?

[Zack]

Vote: Cass

[Montmorency]

Vote: atheotes

TNeed to remember to ISO Renata and look at her reads, possibly she was killed for being on to someone.

Or she was killed for who Cass is not on.

[Visor]

I'm just fueling your paranoia Monty

It's all in your head

[Montmorency]

I'm just fueling your paranoia Monty

It's all in your head

What's going on? I don't understand what this is saying.

[Montmorency]

I like this thought: Us who want power seek servitude in those structures of power. Ambition drives us to Cass for the milk of authority.

Pizza's authority. Her authority.

[Visor]

What's going on? I don't understand what this is saying.

i only voted you to make you feel paranoid about me and winston and drive you further into your confirmation bias

[Montmorency]

Nothing changed. You have failed.

[Montmorency]

Monterey
Cass
Atheotes
Jabbz
Dice
Zack
Monster
Winston
Visor
Fenn
Bsmith

Riedquat
Al Sipsclar
Schema

How could it be other than fennel and Winston?

We must act.

[Riedquat]

Sorry everyone, couple of pages behind! I do agree with you Cass, if townie I should be a bit better but I'm sucking bad at it, so if in doubt just lynch the lurker (me), better sooner than later, I think being replaced at this point isn't fair for the replacement just to suffer the burden of suspicion for my pathetic performance so far. ;)

[Zack]

I thought you townread Riedquat.

[Montmorency]

Lol, that's misleading. Sorry. A few posts up is not for leans but to identify Riedquat, schema, and al Sipsclar as not having shown for d4 at the time. And to reiterate the scum people.

[Monstrdude]

If we did a posts per day analysis of every player we would find that schema fell off a cliff the most I'm sure

Other players that have said significantly less as the days go by also could be checked because that's a big wolf tell a lot, especially I imagine in a game of this magnitude

[Monstrdude]

Game is too big and unmanageable to count every players posts per day without a bot tho

Too much effort so alas, I must make do

[Visor]

If we did a posts per day analysis of every player we would find that schema fell off a cliff the most I'm sure

Other players that have said significantly less as the days go by also could be checked because that's a big wolf tell a lot, especially I imagine in a game of this magnitude

pretty much

[Visor]

Vote: Schema

[Visor]

Don't get confused, I think its a fine vote and I've been leaning there for quite a while just meh.

[Montmorency]

Don't get confused, I think its a fine vote and I've been leaning there for quite a while just meh.

Who are Schema's partners, Visor? The only other you've pointed at so far is Dice (and just recently at that)...

[Visor]

Who are Schema's partners, Visor? The only other you've pointed at so far is Dice (and just recently at that)...

Who cares?

[Montmorency]

Who cares?

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[Montmorency]

Let's put it this way: who would you lynch if Schema flips scum? Or town?

[Visor]

Let's put it this way: who would you lynch if Schema flips scum? Or town?

Haven't thought about it. Probably consider mowing through the Al Sips/Riedquat grouping after that maybe Dice

[Montmorency]

Haven't thought about it. Probably consider mowing through the Al Sips/Riedquat grouping after that maybe Dice

That would be Worst. All the scum are lurkers? Without even Fenn among them? You can't honestly believe people will just buy that, even if the current leadership dies in the meantime?

No! The buck stops here, Visor!


Slip from my notes:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

if Visor scum, one of Jabbz/Al Sips likely partner (see Visor's dual spew assessment);

[Visor]

That would be Worst. All the scum are lurkers? Without even Fenn among them? You can't honestly believe people will just buy that, even if the current leadership dies in the meantime?

No! The buck stops here, Visor!


Slip from my notes:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

if Visor scum, one of Jabbz/Al Sips likely partner (see Visor's dual spew assessment);

[Jabbz]

@cass do you want district authority or do you want someone else to have it? If you want it, you have my vote, if not I'd prefer to get your vote as I don't trust Schema to be town, and I don't trust Zack's judgement.

Vote: Schema for previously mentioned reasons.
Vote: Cass unless she doesn't want it.

[Visor]

hey monty, you've been keeping notes

how many players called el barto wolfy or not town (or null)?

[Montmorency]

hey monty, you've been keeping notes

how many players called el barto wolfy or not town (or null)?

You wot? You might as well ask for a dossier on all things Barto.

I'll give you townreads and scumreads from D2.

Start D2: Monstr kinda think El Barto villager; Monstr [town]leans Barto
Early D2: Cuth doesn't like Zack, GH, and Bart; Visor simple solution - GH/Cuth/Bart/Inactive; Visor says Bart and GH kinda wolfy
Late D2: If Cuth is wolf it clears Bart (who??)**; Winston uptrends El Barto; Visor suggests GH-Cuth-Schema, GH-Bart-Schema, Cuth/BSmith or inactive/GH; Cass still doesn't like Barto; Zack teams Cuth, Bart, and Jabbz, plus Bsmith to lesser extent; Visor suggests GH-Cuth-Schema, GH-Bart-Schema, Cuth/BSmith or inactive/GH; Cass still doesn't like Barto; Zack teams Cuth, Bart, and Jabbz, plus Bsmith to lesser extent;
Start D3: Zack suspect Cass-Chox-Cuth-Bart conspiracy; Fenn found GH null, Cuth scummier than Bart and worth a lynch;
Early D3: Riedquat likes Zack and Bart; Cuth says Bart is slightly towny; Renata wants Cuth lynched, then Bart, suspicious of Zack; Fenn wants Cuth, then Bart, lynched; atheotes can't look past Cuth and Barto; Monstr now (almost?) wants to lynch Bart (pp. 83-4); Monstr says Bart-Winston unlikely scum team for antipathy; Fenn has Bart, dicetosser, and Cuth as scum (though Cuth's lean posts were towny); Monstr says Fenn/barto/monty/Schema Yolo (Least confident in schema); Zack has Barto scum; dicetosser wants Barto lynch;
Late D3: Al Sips has scum Bart, Mont, Zack, BSmith, Cuth; Jabbz has Bart and Schema as scum, maybe Bsmith & Fenn;



**https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053730819 ; https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053730986

[Riedquat]

Well If I were scum I already had claimed I vigged cuth instead of BSmith for the lols, the chaos and the adrenaline!

For reference, not that anybody cares, I defended Barto, and thought he was town... with this result I'm paranoid enough to question myself if all my hunches were or not correct... and for what is going on in the thread I'm concerned!
So my thoughts on everyone, I do not do reads!

Monstrbro: town
Montmorency: town? Am I sure? No! He reading me town, makes me nervous, same thing with the odd behavior against Visor on D1/D2... town... yeah... almost sure
Cass_: town or a master criminal mind, but seems legit town, why is she alive? Perhaps the scum thinks there is a doctor around and do not what to miss a kill... it is very possible
Al Sipsclar: not a clue
Zack: keeps being pretty aggressive but still think he is town
dicetosser1: umm, seems town here and there, and odd here and there again, not sure, mostly town
atheotes: town, something town
BSmith: umm and umm and umm, reasons and motives seems completely legit but why the reveal? Concerned, IF I were scum with an extra kill ability I would have done the same, big IF but can't remove it from my mind.
Winston Hughes: odd, not sure of him anymore
Jabbz: not a clue
Schema: same as dicetosser
Visor: more odd than winston, honestly didn't like his day 1 reads, mostly because when he is town and start with those hunch reads he usually dies soon, but now we are at D4 and there are no substantial reads, come on Visor, read me, we both know you can with this low amount from me...
Fenn: more townie feeling than scummy feeling
Riedquat: scummy as heck, you should lynch this dude assap!

I regret saying the previous district sucked... so whoever wants my vote, do your job and convince me! :seriousclown:

[Montmorency]

Your district choices for rep are BSmith and Visor.

Of Fenn and Schema, whom are you less sure of?

[atheotes]

As I said, I haven't read about a third of the total posts here (they were probably all made by Monstrbro, but still) so I don't feel I can put them in real order, not so early in the game anyway.

El Barto: obviously town (read my role PM)
Cass_: highly likely town (50% success rate is not bad compared to usual town performances, if she were scum she would have just lynched me)

The following are neither cleared nor scum, these are just comments. I haven't done an ISO on anyone (my wifi broke down six times today, if I counted properly) and it's mostly vibes.
Also, someone posted something early on D2 about people being cleared by their actions on late D1, I agreed with that post and whatever I posted then should overwrite anything I post here.

Monstrbro: I'm not sure what to make of this. Someone shut him up though, he makes the thread unreadable.
Renata: pooo-ssible town.
Al Sipsclar: poo-sible town.
Cuthillius: scumscum
Zack: too aggressive, tries not to reply to me
dicetosser1 - ???
atheotes - probable town
BSmith - probable town
Winston Hughes - drunk, pretended my ‘I killed Sooh’ thing was real.
Jabbz - ???
Schema - don't know what to compare against.
Visor: can't bloody read him, could be scum or not. Don't see him as scum with Monty thought.
Riedquat: taking the mickey of us
Csargo/Fenn: Has posted too little.
Montmorency: powahgrabbah, my current vote.

only content provided by El barto.
the Alsips town read is the only one that stands out for me.