French Presidential Election

[Tristuskhan]

No it is not. Acceptable. Both Strauss-Kahn and Lagarde are politically dead here. She -who wants to keep on giving her best to the whole world - will stay abroad, good riddence. And DSK is back to the vacuum he should never had left.

Both would be in jail in the USA, for quite long, I know. And we have other important figures like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lauvergeon
She is bad, very bad in every domain. Areva will become an awful burdain for the state soon, very soon... And she's still here, lying and maneuvering, overpaid while leading a strategic industry to a collapse.

And we can make a whole gallery of such people in France. Fillon and his wife? Uh? The upper class is made of thieves? How can it be so?


Oh and marriage still exists, yes. Just to make proof we're not smarter than others.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

No it is not. Acceptable. Both Strauss-Kahn and Lagarde are politically dead here. She -who wants to keep on giving her best to the whole world - will stay abroad, good riddence. And DSK is back to the vacuum he should never had left.

Both would be in jail in the USA, for quite long, I know. And we have other important figures like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lauvergeon
She is bad, very bad in every domain. Areva will become an awful burdain for the state soon, very soon... And she's still here, lying and maneuvering, overpaid while leading a strategic industry to a collapse.

And we can make a whole gallery of such people in France. Fillon and his wife? Uh? The upper class is made of thieves? How can it be so?


Oh and marriage still exists, yes. Just to make proof we're not smarter than others.

If the French President and the French press have not demanded her resignation (I confess my French is poor, I do not read the French press) then they have accepted her running the IMF and her position must, therefore, be acceptable.

As regards DSK, I was referring to his alleged assault of Tristane Bannon, which was first reported in 2007 before he became head of the IMF but which was apparently treated with a collective Gallic Shrug until he was prosecuted in the US. Supposedly her mother persuaded her not to press charges, which would make her mother an absolute monster.

I say "alleged" only because he has not been prosecuted and convicted.

Here an accusation of that type would have been investigated as soon as it was made, the Police would have been hammering on doors demanding to know why her mother had persuaded her to keep quiet for five years.

Of course, we have no time-bar on accusations of sexual assault here - so he'd also be prosecuted and convicted even in 2011.

And why in the name of God is Lagarde not in gaol?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

If the French President and the French press have not demanded her resignation (I confess my French is poor, I do not read the French press) then they have accepted her running the IMF and her position must, therefore, be acceptable.

As regards DSK, I was referring to his alleged assault of Tristane Bannon, which was first reported in 2007 before he became head of the IMF but which was apparently treated with a collective Gallic Shrug until he was prosecuted in the US. Supposedly her mother persuaded her not to press charges, which would make her mother an absolute monster.

I say "alleged" only because he has not been prosecuted and convicted.

Here an accusation of that type would have been investigated as soon as it was made, the Police would have been hammering on doors demanding to know why her mother had persuaded her to keep quiet for five years.

Of course, we have no time-bar on accusations of sexual assault here - so he'd also be prosecuted and convicted even in 2011.

And why in the name of God is Lagarde not in gaol?

For such a solidly socialist country, France is surprisingly "laissez-faire" about some aspects of their leaders' conduct.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Let's be honest - France is a very sexist place.

Being a fat man? Fine.

Being a fat woman? On no!

Christine Lagarde is, I believe, notable for being - well - rather tan for a Frenchwoman. Even as girls French females tend to have greater poise, elegance and self-possession than, say, English or American ones. This is a whispered subject among English boys on holiday but quite how it is achieved is a mystery believed known only to the women of France.

[Tristuskhan]

Let's be honest - France is a very sexist place.
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Christine Lagarde is, I believe, notable for being - well - rather tan for a Frenchwoman. Even as girls French females tend to have greater poise, elegance and self-possession than, say, English or American ones. This is a whispered subject among English boys on holiday but quite how it is achieved is a mystery believed known only to the women of France.

Do english boys know how to whisper? That's not what we ear when we see them on holidays. English boys on holidays are on par whith southern french when it comes to womanizing. Those qualities of french ladies you admire, are just adaptation to a very very rude environment.

And Mrs Lagarde boasts à very shocking nasty artificial tanning, like many ladies of her caste.

Finally, let's be honest; France is dramatically sexist, has always been and is getting worse for ten years now.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Do english boys know how to whisper? That's not what we ear when we see them on holidays. English boys on holidays are on par whith southern french when it comes to womanizing. Those qualities of french ladies you admire, are just adaptation to a very very rude environment.

I did mean "boys" as in 14-15. Young English men abroad are, frankly, dreadful, and very loud.

English girls dress terribly though, they either have far too much makeup or they wear far too little. They get uproariously drunk then stumble down the road carrying their shoes shouting abuse. If any English boy (who they know) tries to help them home they will often attack him with said shoes.

They get over it in their mid-20's and start acting like grown-ups.

And Mrs Lagarde boasts à very shocking nasty artificial tanning, like many ladies of her caste.

I'm rather bad at judging French class, is she from some French very of "New Money."

The tan is very, as we would say here, "striking" especially given that she does not dye her hair.

Finally, let's be honest; France is dramatically sexist, has always been and is getting worse for ten years now.

France is wonderful if you are French, and conform to the correct definition of "French".

[Tristuskhan]

I'm rather bad at judging French class, is she from some French very of "New Money."

Rather "Old Money". Her father's balls were wrapped in cashmere. And his father's, etc, etc...

[Brenus]

"France is wonderful if you are French, and conform to the correct definition of "French"." Definition that no french agree upon. What is to be French. In england, big debate of Englishness... So I could say easily England is wonderful if you are English, and conform to the definition of "English". Can do this for probably all countries...
About Lagarde, she is the boss of the IMF as she was protected by the USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Lagarde
So don't blame France for this one. She was one of the worst Minister of Finances France ever had and still is allowed to give her opinion about finances...

About marriage, do you have evidence that rate of divorces, infidelity or affairs are more numerous in France than say USA, Germany, Sweden or Italy? Not really important for me, as marriage being a social contract, but just to break the idea that marriage is a protection against these behaviors...
This map says USA is in the lead:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ma...-divorce-rate/

"Let's be honest - France is a very sexist place:
Being a fat man? Fine.
Being a fat woman? On no!" And to be a fat woman is accepted where, exactly? I mean in the "western civilisation" world? All our countries and sexists, misogenistic, and the US new President is a real good example of this, and how his speeches about women were gladly accepted by his voters.

"Christine Lagarde is, I believe, notable for being - well - rather tan for a Frenchwoman." Don't take it the wrong way, but you can't in one sentence reproach to the French to have a correct definition of French, then to apply the definition you think is to be French. So C Lagarde being French couldn't be tanned.
So, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachida_Dati is not French beccause, well she is tanned...
As I said, no one agree on a "French" definition.

"For such a solidly socialist country, France is surprisingly "laissez-faire" about some aspects of their leaders' conduct." If Holland was a socialist we would know about it... He had a worst social/economical policy than Sarkozy... Reason why now the period is known as Sarkolland.
The planing past in France was due more to Gal de Gaulle time (and gave fantastic results, btw) than the "socialist" time that existed only in imagination...