Trump Thread

[Husar]

A shooting war might be just what They want
Further to this. If Muellers' investigation/charges do lead to an impeachment, what are the odds of a Civil War v.2?

OMG!
It's happening! Nov.4 'cause that's just how these anarchists roll!

https://wonkette.com/625024/oh-no-th...-be-very-fraid

If you go to that antifa website: https://revolutionaryabolition.org

And watch the video, you may actually realize, that we have a case of TWO crazy sides.
I would assume and hope the anarchists aren't as dangerous, but who knows when these people think they're the US version of the FARC and what not? Are some of their claims legitimate? Yes. Is it very, very crazy to take up arms and massacre people while claiming to end injustice? Yes. They'd have much more credibility if they tried to help Bernie Sanders instead of claiming he'll never get anywhere (which he is even less likely to do if they're not helping him).

Also, is the guy in the video an actual cop? He sure sounds and also looks like one, but I'm pretty sure if a policeman here made such a video, I'd expect him to get suspended/fired really fast.

[HopAlongBunny]

Well the image starting the piece has "100% Total Bull****" blazoned across it :)
From the article:

"Here is Mr. Not A Real Officer Pelz warning about the coming breakdown of society and calling for armed citizens to take up arms against the violent Antifa thugs: "

But I see what you are getting at...
That's exactly the image they wish to portray until their Anti-Antifa Revolution strikes!!!

[HopAlongBunny]

It looks like Greyblades will have to quiet his rants and go have a smoke
Tony Podesta is apparently a drive-by bit o'roadkill in the latest dust up.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-broker-244341

No mention of murder or pedophile rings. He is packing up his business and quietly leaving the scene.
He might be back later, but perhaps the present "law and order" push on the Hill isn't the right "fit" (speculate wildly, even irresponsibly)

[HopAlongBunny]

The full indictments can be found courtesy of MotherJones:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...nd-rick-gates/

[Montmorency]

More important (up to this point) than Manafort is that a certain Trump campaign advisor Papadopoulos Flipped-on-Trump-oulos sometime in the summer. Papadopoulos brought out talk of Clinton research and meetings and emails with Putin almost right away upon joining Trump's national security/foreign policy team in March 2016. The more Paps talked up his Russian links, the higher he moved up in the campaign, even as the other members of his original team left over such reasons as lack of compensation. The timeline on communications regarding Russian communications with the campaign is pushed back further: before Manafort joined, before the Trump Jr. meeting, before the Wikileaks email dump, then after the national convention, after the election...

Concretely on collusion here, is if it can be demonstrated that any platform positions taken by the Trump campaign following March 31st (at least) constitute quid pro quo.

Fun byproduct: Wikileaks is further implicated as a front or intermediary for Russian intelligence.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[spmetla]

Amazing how the guilty plea of an unknown like Papadopoulos can bring out such ire from the administration. After a full week of trying to discredit the investigation and paint the Clinton campaigns use of the Steele dossier as collusion to have charges brought on the three of the circle is perfect timing.

I'm certainly curious when/if something will be brought against Michael Flynn and son seeing as the investigation into him is one of the major reasons Comey was fired.

I'd actually be happy if the investigation was expanded into the Ukraine/Uranium thing that the administration is using to deflect just to make the Mueller investigation less able to be painted as a partisan hit job. We've already seen the past few months the analysis of every lawyer added to the Mueller team to see if they'd ever donated to a Democrat as building up ammo to discredit it.

On a side note, it is rather irritating how all this news as overshadowed much mention of the Catalan or Kurdish crises in the US which are every bit as important.

[Montmorency]

On a side note, it is rather irritating how all this news as overshadowed much mention of the Catalan or Kurdish crises in the US which are every bit as important.

Well as some have pointed out, Mueller looks like he is playing himself in the eventual TV/film dramatization of the Trump presidency.

US political dramas simply have a market advantage over foreign-language, even action/war genre. You need the square-jawed American man as a protagonist to compete.

Also, it appears the Special Counsel's office has set up a webpage Monday. Stay tuned for viral content?

[Hooahguy]

Its amusing to me to see Trump claim that Papadopoulos was a low level intern or something where theres photo proof of him sitting at national security meetings with Trump & co.

[Pannonian]

It looks like Greyblades will have to quiet his rants and go have a smoke
Tony Podesta is apparently a drive-by bit o'roadkill in the latest dust up.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-broker-244341

No mention of murder or pedophile rings. He is packing up his business and quietly leaving the scene.
He might be back later, but perhaps the present "law and order" push on the Hill isn't the right "fit" (speculate wildly, even irresponsibly)

GB has backed Trump, Brexit, and Corbyn. Is he a Putin fan or something?

[CrossLOPER]

GB has backed Trump, Brexit, and Corbyn. Is he a Putin fan or something?

He is a victim of a society that totally hates white males. Seriously. Hates them. Wink.

[John Smith]

What do you call hot air that is offensive to be around?

[Tuuvi]

If you go to that antifa website: https://revolutionaryabolition.org

And watch the video, you may actually realize, that we have a case of TWO crazy sides.
I would assume and hope the anarchists aren't as dangerous, but who knows when these people think they're the US version of the FARC and what not? Are some of their claims legitimate? Yes. Is it very, very crazy to take up arms and massacre people while claiming to end injustice? Yes. They'd have much more credibility if they tried to help Bernie Sanders instead of claiming he'll never get anywhere (which he is even less likely to do if they're not helping him).

Also, is the guy in the video an actual cop? He sure sounds and also looks like one, but I'm pretty sure if a policeman here made such a video, I'd expect him to get suspended/fired really fast.

From the website you posted:

Long Term Goal: Building the Abolitionist Project

For the Abolitionist project to be successful we must eventually transition from resistance to a revolutionary situation. Relationships and groups built through the underground railroad have the potential to become the foundation for organized defense groups, local councils, and regional/national councils.

We invite comrades to coordinate our activities regionally, and nationally as part of an Abolitionist Council.

Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.

[Montmorency]

From the website you posted:



Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.

In fact there's on-site coverage, Vice News or some other networks, of European anarchists who have volunteered to participate in the 'Kurdish experiment'.

I agree with the socialists: adventurists, the lot.

[Tuuvi]

In fact there's on-site coverage, Vice News or some other networks, of European anarchists who have volunteered to participate in the 'Kurdish experiment'.

I agree with the socialists: adventurists, the lot.

Which is kind of funny in a way, because Abdullah Ocalan, the PYD's philosophical leader, was influenced by an American radical named Murray Bookchin, who proposed that the state should be replaced with a confederation of democratic municipal assemblies. Bookchin considered himself an anarchist for many decades but he couldn't convince any other anarchists to adopt his ideas and ended up disowning the anarchist movement. Now that Bookchin is dead and some of his ideas are being implemented in Rojava, anarchists are willing to travel to Syria and risk their lives in support of Rojava's revolution.

[spmetla]

The militia men right wingers and the ANTIFA guys are both dangerous threats. While most won't actually resort to violence it only takes a few idiots on each side to do violence. If the clamp down is too heavy handed by the authorities it usually galvanizes the extremist which ratchet up their actions too. If it turns into tit-for-tat between groups then it generally escalates and becomes 'normalized.'

The world has had more than enough violence spells that start out as protests then riots then outright rebellion and it can happen anywhere.

The color revolutions of Eastern Europe would have turned into civil war if the authorities had chosen to use force.

[Husar]

You must have missed the part where they celebrate having street fights against the police and show pride about hurting policemen.
That is something they do already and it makes them crazy, just like the idea that small communes of people were somehow a solution for all our problems...

[HopAlongBunny]

The best revision of taxes ever!!!
Does a lot go to the top income bracket? Why yes! Yes it does!!!
America is about to be drenched in Trickle Down goodness!

https://wonkette.com/625291/gop-tax-...class-families

It is indeed amazing how the deficit is no longer an issue with a White Republican in the White House

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...Anarchists aren't going to attempt an armed insurgency until they feel like they have popular support and there is some sort of government crackdown or major unrest. This is basically what happened in Rojava/North Syria which that website cites as inspiration; the PYD had been organizing underground for years until the civil war broke out and they then took the opportunity to kick the regime out and create their own political institutions.

So the anarchists are waiting to get organized...

[Tuuvi]

Maybe "insurgency" was the wrong word, because at that point it would be more of a militia based endeavor like the American Revolution was than a terrorist insurgency like FARC. Either way my point still stands, anarchists aren't stupid/crazy enough to start a random terror campaign like the alt-right hysterics claim they will.