Trump Thread

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Certainly he had his supporters right up to the end, and political parties always engender/reward loyalty to party, sometimes even when unwarranted (one of the reasons GW loathed them). There were even people genuinely sobbing during his "farewell" speech. But your numbers also indicate that, where evidence was clear, even a third of his own party would not vote in his favor in the committee, knowing full well that their vote would make it a bipartisan vote for impeachment.

The Pentagon Papers were all material Ellsberg had access to prior to 1968 prior to the Nixon administration entirely. There was no indication that Nixon's folks falsified anything about bombings outside of Vietnam. In fact, Nixon had made public declarations that such would occur. On Kissinger's advice, Nixon DID seek to discredit Ellsberg so as to preserve the "secrecy" tools of the Presidency as a whole. Nixon's tactics in this, however, were covered under obstruction of justice and abuse of power (which they were).

Nixon's resignation was the only valid choice for him. The full HoR would have voted to impeach on the first three articles had it gone to a vote and it was already clear that the Senate would've convicted on at least the first two.

My concern is that the Republican Party of today is more entrenched in party loyalty than those of Nixon's era. Today we can only rely on a handful of Senators being at best 'maybe no' for these rushed, pork laden bills that are being pushed through.

I must have been mixing up my dates for the Pentagon Papers, that's my mistake.