Trump Thread

**rory_20_uk** · 01-30-2018, 16:11

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Depends on what you consider a success.

A few years ago it could be thought that Syria would end up being a western-friendly puppet backed by the West, Israel and Saudi Arabia it is now a place where Turkey is currently shelling troops that are backed by the USA - both NATO members whilst Saudi Arabia squares off against Iran. They've got their warm water ports for at least the time being at least. They got to try out all sorts of toys on borderline defenceless targets.

So they dropped a load of old ordinance on targets and have got most of the world bickering about Syria rather than talking about how to force Russia to give back the Crimea.

**Gilrandir** · 01-30-2018, 18:19

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

A few years ago it could be thought that Syria would end up being a western-friendly puppet backed by the West, Israel and Saudi Arabia it is now a place where Turkey is currently shelling troops that are backed by the USA - both NATO members whilst Saudi Arabia squares off against Iran. They've got their warm water ports for at least the time being at least. They got to try out all sorts of toys on borderline defenceless targets.

So they dropped a load of old ordinance on targets and have got most of the world bickering about Syria rather than talking about how to force Russia to give back the Crimea.

I meant "success with Ukraine".

**Strike For The South** · 01-30-2018, 19:11

Putting my Kissinger hat on, War between China and Russia would be good for the west. Not good for the millions who would die needlessly however. War is funny about having that as a sticking point.

The picture is starting to become clearer. Trump laundered money for the Russians, had his debt wiped, and now this is the quid pro quo. The Russian propaganda is little more than a Soviet style throwback that has more to do with Putin flexing his muscles rather than whoever the candidates were.

The vote is so lopsided it is veto proof. This may actually do it. A lot of republican senators can feel themselves on the precipice. Both Cornyn and Cruz were hawking some pre natal pain bill when this news broke. It is a desperate attempt at a feint.