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[Strike For The South]

The idea is not bad in itself. FDIPR is a federal program that does just the same thing for Native Americans on reservations, and at a glance here and in other studies it seems to work... decently, at least.

The reservation boxes are literal jokes to those who receive them. If by works decently you mean "gets there" sure.

However, this program is complementary to SNAP, rather than a replacement for it. It exists because on some isolated reservations (or reservations in general, because frankly the rez be dirt-poor) families in need of food assistance may not have ready access to quality food in the market.

They get powdered milk, white bread, and processed cheese, hardly quality.

Then again, why shouldn't SNAP recipients get to eat steak and lobster? In line with what you're saying, the underlying assumption either way is that poor people should only partake of the shittiest food and be grateful for it. It's the same sentiment underlying the snide comments when a food bank distributes donations of premium items: isn't it more efficient to give food bank customers the absolute cheapest canned food?

It is simply to deflect the most common brought up argument against SNAP. As a whole people do not suddenly try to game the system.

"One day the poor will have nothing to eat but the rich" is a satisfying thought, but the poor as a group will not be allowed to want for calories until the time to die is at hand.

Everything is impossible until it happens.

[Montmorency]

The reservation boxes are literal jokes to those who receive them. If by works decently you mean "gets there" sure.

They get powdered milk, white bread, and processed cheese, hardly quality.

. Although FDPIR is intended to be a supplemental food package program, it
was the sole or primary source of food for 38 percent of households

Participant satisfaction with FDPIR was overwhelmingly positive. Of the 15 household survey questions
that asked respondents to rank satisfaction on food packages, facilities, and the operation of the program,
respondent satisfaction rates on 12 items were over 90 percent. Strikingly, 99 percent of survey
respondents indicated that they would recommend FDPIR to family and friends

The process for ordering produce was different from that for ordering other USDA Foods. Nearly all
sites ordered produce to be delivered once per week to ensure the availability of fresh produce to
participants throughout the month.

Participants commonly suggested adding back to the food package products that had been removed,
including lunchmeat or spam, tuna, and syrup. Other products that participants would like to see, in no
particular order, included spices, garlic, frozen vegetables, baking soda or baking powder or yeast, fresh eggs
(currently being piloted), sugar, frozen fish, whole milk, bread, alternative grains and flours (barley, quinoa),
and coffee and tea.
Other participants requested a greater variety of frozen meats, canned beans, and canned soups. In the
discussion groups, households in one program indicated that they would like more meat and to be able to
receive both oil and butter. Staff noted that the amount of butter offered has decreased since its
reintroduction into the food package, and recipients would like more of it. For a detailed discussion of
participants’ food preferences, see chapter 8.

Some participants in discussion groups raised issues about the availability of all food items. For example,
they mentioned food being out of stock when they arrived or not available that month. Unavailability of
products and inconsistency of inventory were mentioned as key reasons why people might leave the
program

By "decent", I mean useful. Maybe it's more reflective of the quality of reservation life than the quality of the food or the process, but still. My point is just that a distinct and well-funded program of curated packages isn't an inherently bad idea as long as it isn't presented as a replacement for anything. If really ambitious, assemble and distribute to all comers (i.e. without special enrolment) on a local basis.

[HopAlongBunny]

More fake news.
Mueller and the grand jury have indicted 13 Russians and 3 Russian entities for the interference that didn't happen.
Charges include attempting to defraud the U.S., wire fraud, bank fraud and identity theft.
For something that never occurred this is certainly leaving quite a trail:

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/58650...lectionhttp://

While the administration might wish to sow doubt about the election interference, there is no doubt that Russia is actively engaging in an information war at present:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...discord-online

Denial while under attack is not a winning strategy.

[Montmorency]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...94780088033282

Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted. The Trump campaign did nothing wrong - no collusion!

12:18 PM - 16 Feb 2018

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-t...for-president/

May 27, 2013, 2:55 PM

Trump thinking - again - about running for president

Serial presidential campaign explorer Donald Trump is at it again, spending $1 million researching a 2016 run, according to his executive vice president.

"The electoral research was commissioned," Trump's executive VP and special counsel Michael Cohen first told the New York Post and confirmed to CBS News. "We did not spend $1 million on this research for it just to sit on my bookshelf," he said.

"At this point Mr. Trump has not made any decision on a political run, but what I would say is that he is exactly what this country needs. The turnout at these political speeches indicates his following remains very strong and is growing."

[...]

"Everybody tells me, 'Please run for president. Please run for president.' I would be much happier if a great and competent person came along," Trump said, according to the Source Newspapers. "I'd be happy if President Obama did a great job. I'm a Republican, but before anything, I love this country. I would love to see somebody come in who is going to be great."

He also said that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee and the GOP "has to pick the right candidate because it will not be an easy election in three years."

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...niverse-223173

When Donald Trump brought Miss Universe to Moscow
How a 2013 beauty pageant explains Trump's love for Russia and obsession with Vladimir Putin.

On June 18, 2013, Donald Trump had some exciting news: He would soon be whisking dozens of the world’s most beautiful women to Russia.

“The Miss Universe Pageant will be broadcast live from MOSCOW, RUSSIA on November 9th,” Trump tweeted that day, referring to the beauty pageant he owned at the time. “A big deal that will bring our countries together!”

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