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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I don't know why you bring up courts in reply to my post.
    Courts can be changed: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7140661.html

    They only have power if the executive actually enforces their decisions. And failing that, the people in general.
    The point was that with sufficient support in the populace and the executive, the rule of the law can be broken and Trump is moving somewhat in this direction by trying to discredit every institution that tries to block him.

    Surely the USA are a more stable country than Turkey, but that's probably what the Romans thought, too. AND WHERE ARE THEY NOW? ;)
    That's what I was touching on in my response to your portion - executive power overriding subtle judicial arguments, and courts actively deferring to the executive in order to avoid a situation in which the executive have to choose between following onerous court orders, or explicitly rejecting them.

    Sorry for rambling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    That's what I was touching on in my response to your portion - executive power overriding subtle judicial arguments, and courts actively deferring to the executive in order to avoid a situation in which the executive have to choose between following onerous court orders, or explicitly rejecting them.

    Sorry for rambling.
    What rambling? If I misread your post, it's your duty to point that out. How else would I learn?

    In your example you seem to say Lincoln acted against a court order, but the court wasn't exactly interested in ordering him to do or not do anything anyway. Then you say the courts generally try not to interfere with the executive.

    So, do you agree that it is possible that noone would stop Trump from ignoring the law and potentially the constitution?
    It's not just about the courts, imagine a democratic congress were to impeach him, but his crazy cabinet would back him and order the police/military not to remove him. Would that result in a coup/civil war or endless debates until his term was over anyway? And what if he'd then declare a state of emergency and postponed the elections? Would all the California hippies pick up their AR-15s and march on Washington?

    These are hypotheticals of course, but I'm not entirely sure how disinterested courts figure into this other than that they might make it even easier for him.


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    Trump spreads BS like a manure spreader.
    It seems this trait has "trickled down" to the FCC:

    https://wonkette.com/634875/trump-fc...ames-it-on-dog

    "We've were hacked!"
    "We have no proof, but, I mean obviously we need to stop public comment on net-neutrality cause...you know"

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