HopAlongBunny 22:05 01-20-2017
Original Thread title: Rising to Greatness Again or America's Sicily Moment?
Good luck my Southern friends :)
My vote:
melodrama:
Major Robert Dump 23:16 01-20-2017
You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
Seamus Fermanagh 05:36 01-21-2017
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
[SF writes down "maple-tainted" to use later. Smiles a rather "Snively Whiplash" sort of smile.]
Kagemusha 08:18 01-21-2017
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
You never called
Major Robert Dump 19:39 01-22-2017
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
You never called
Don't give me that crap. I offered to shirtless-broSkype with you so many times but always an excuse. I WANT MY BOOK BACK
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
Don't give me that crap. I offered to shirtless-broSkype with you so many times but always an excuse. I WANT MY BOOK BACK
I DONT KNOW WHERE THE BOOK IS, IM SORRY. IT MAY BE IN STORAGE. I WAS TOO EMBRASSED TO SAY ANYTHING.
FORGIVE ME.
:(
edyzmedieval 05:57 01-23-2017
Well that turned down south quickly. From... uhm... what's this thread about... to shirtless bro Skyping.
Sarmatian 13:45 01-23-2017
So, all we needed for some of the Old Guard to check back was Trump winning the election.
Greyblades 16:28 01-23-2017
He's been in power three days and he's allready making the org great again.
Seamus Fermanagh 18:01 01-23-2017
Originally Posted by
edyzmedieval:
Well that turned down south quickly. From... uhm... what's this thread about... to shirtless bro Skyping. 
"down South?"
As a resident of the southernmost of the continental United States, I mis-admire your use of that phrase as belittling of the nobility of the Southlands.
Moreover, even the Spartans thought it seemly to have a younger man, rippled from his noble efforts at the gymnasium and enlightened by his studies of philosophy and the law, taken "under the wing" of an older veteran to ensure the proper development of his manliness. How can you think less of this?
Seamus Fermanagh 18:03 01-23-2017
Originally Posted by Sarmatian:
So, all we needed for some of the Old Guard to check back was Trump winning the election.
To be fair to MRD, I actually use this site to gauge some of the sensibilities of those of you folks "cross the pond." It isn't reported upon here with much depth in the mainstream media.
HopAlongBunny 21:29 01-23-2017
Thank you Seamus for getting the thread somewhat back on the rails :)
Particularly since, "Sicily Moment" refers to Athens fatal error of sending the fleet to loot Sicily during the winter "downtime", and before the resumption of Spartan hostilities in campaign season.
The price of pride and greed was to lose Athens; it would rise again...but..
Seamus Fermanagh 23:50 01-23-2017
Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny:
Thank you Seamus for getting the thread somewhat back on the rails :)
Particularly since, "Sicily Moment" refers to Athens fatal error of sending the fleet to loot Sicily during the winter "downtime", and before the resumption of Spartan hostilities in campaign season.
The price of pride and greed was to lose Athens; it would rise again...but..
The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
Montmorency 01:33 01-24-2017
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
Well, it did involve many leading figures over several decades. There's no one "administration" to point to.
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
That seems an accurate assessment.
HopAlongBunny 04:38 01-24-2017
I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.
I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"
A thread for posting about Trump's progress, announcements, policy decisions, and controversies.
Day one: the day of national devotion.
Gilrandir 10:47 01-24-2017
Seamus Fermanagh 15:03 01-24-2017
U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.
Pannonian 15:28 01-24-2017
Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny:
I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.
I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"
I've thought of it as Athens' Barbarossa: needlessly restarting and expanding the war when they had achieved an advantageous peace from the previous bout of campaigning.
AntiDamascus 16:13 01-24-2017
I think that may have been the joke
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.
I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior.
Trump thread merged with other Trump thread. He is not important enough for two.
Renamed it to make it more obvious.
Seamus Fermanagh 18:32 01-24-2017
Originally Posted by
Husar:
I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior. 
He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
Pannonian 18:51 01-24-2017
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
What happened the last time the same party held the majority in all branches of government? I'm not too familiar with the details of US politics, but it's my impression that the system was designed to have contrary and competing opinions in different branches.
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
That sounds a lot like a king/son of a nobleman.
CrossLOPER 01:59 01-25-2017
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.
We don't know that.
Obama had zero executive experience before he became President but relatively few people seemed worried about that.
People just don't like Trump.
Major Robert Dump 15:15 01-25-2017
I came back because I got an email. I didn't even know there was an election, I missed my own birthday and I forgot Christmas because the Philippines is awesome
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