Trump Thread

[Gilrandir]

[Seamus Fermanagh]

U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.

[AntiDamascus]

I think that may have been the joke

[Husar]

U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.

I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior.

[Beskar]

Trump thread merged with other Trump thread. He is not important enough for two.

Renamed it to make it more obvious.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior.

He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.

[Pannonian]

He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.

What happened the last time the same party held the majority in all branches of government? I'm not too familiar with the details of US politics, but it's my impression that the system was designed to have contrary and competing opinions in different branches.

[Husar]

He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.

That sounds a lot like a king/son of a nobleman.

[CrossLOPER]

He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.

I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.

We don't know that.

Obama had zero executive experience before he became President but relatively few people seemed worried about that.

People just don't like Trump.

[Major Robert Dump]

I came back because I got an email. I didn't even know there was an election, I missed my own birthday and I forgot Christmas because the Philippines is awesome

[rory_20_uk]

We don't know that.

Obama had zero executive experience before he became President but relatively few people seemed worried about that.

People just don't like Trump.

Obama was a lawyer for a long time before he was President, and by all accounts continued to act like one - very detailed focused, generally cautious and slow to act.
Trump is a... "personality" of little substance. And by all accounts he is continuing to act like one - views life as a reflection of TV, decisions should be decisive and made quickly; ratings = "winning" and detail = loosers.

Some genuinely prefer the second way of behaviour. They think government is too slow, are xenophobic and are anxious about how their life is not improving and blame this on everyone that is not them.

Obama did many things that were wrong - but he did it in a "normal" manner so most things happened behind the scenes or at the very least in a lawful way. Trump prefers to do things as gestures with little interest in whether things are lawful since no one will follow the boooooring case through the courts - least of all his supporters.

There are many things structurally wrong with the political system in the USA - many because things haven't been altered in over 100 years when the country was much more rural; others such as the electoral colleges are no longer required - direct voting with a decent AV system would be more likely to get a candidate that more people liked or a more balanced system of votes in at least the House if not the Senate as well.

But comparing it to other large bodies - which only the EU, India (and arguably China) exist it is the best by a country mile. Which itself is rather depressing.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.

This executive approach is certainly his "comfort zone." It is one of his strengths. He will have to adapt because no one person is powerful enough to bend all of the bureaucracy to his or her will -- at least for any length of time. His ability to make quick and decisive choices could be a real strength if used judiciously.

I think people underestimate his intelligence. Very few unintelligent persons have ever held the office at least since the outset of the 20th century (though I have my doubts about Harding). It remains to be seen if he is adaptable as well as intelligent, as well as how skilled he will be at molding those around him to work in his preferred fashion.

[CrossLOPER]

I think people underestimate his intelligence. Very few unintelligent persons have ever held the office at least since the outset of the 20th century (though I have my doubts about Harding). It remains to be seen if he is adaptable as well as intelligent, as well as how skilled he will be at molding those around him to work in his preferred fashion.

Have you ever had to work under anyone who held the title of manager? Ever? Have you been paying attention to how he behaves? He thinks with his ego.

The only reason he isn't shilling used cars right now is because he had the presence of mind to pass of his money making operations to people who actually knew what they are doing, and that his brand name is actually worth something. He is to intelligence as bitcoin is to a sustainable currency.

[Husar]

This executive approach is certainly his "comfort zone." It is one of his strengths. He will have to adapt because no one person is powerful enough to bend all of the bureaucracy to his or her will -- at least for any length of time. His ability to make quick and decisive choices could be a real strength if used judiciously.

Everyone has that ability, the question is whether the result is desirable.
If he had always made the right quick decisions, why did he have so many failed businesses?

I think people underestimate his intelligence.

He may have a very high social intelligence or so in the sense that he knows who to get drunk with or how to appeal to other rich white men, that does however not mean that he necessarily understands everything he does. And if he does, well, you're now being ruled by an orange Machiavelli...