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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Perspective please.

    ALL of the POTUS administrations in my lifetime have done this kind of political theatre stuff. Appointing a drug czar means we're "really" working on the drug problem. Giving a freedom award to a person of color means we no longer have any race issues. Passing a law that increases mandatory sentencing means that we are being tough on crime. Increasing the capital gains tax by 5% means we're really sticking it to the rich this time. ALL of this is SHOW and not substance -- like the hard-bodied assistant in a magic act.

    The current occupant's administration is performing their little theatre moments just as have all the predecessors.

    Do not let your mislike of Trump lead you to analyze his shenanigans as any more or any less superfluous and silly than those who have gone before.



    You want to really evaluate him or criticize him? Look at the policy measures being taken and argue how/when/why they fall short or will have unintended consequences that outweigh their benefits.
    You should know that this is alarmingly naive. If the analyte was undertaken for political purposes, then it clearly has political ramifications. The question is not one of policy itself but of how policy is used to transform power in politics.

    You can't make much of a distinction between "theater" and "substance".
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...y-not-against/

    Boris Johnson gets an exemption for British Citizens.

    At least someone achieved something this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...y-not-against/

    Boris Johnson gets an exemption for British Citizens.

    At least someone achieved something this week.
    Quote Originally Posted by headline
    [...]Boris Johnson lobbies president

    I thought Trump just stopped all lobbying, especially from foreign countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    You should know that this is alarmingly naive. If the analyte was undertaken for political purposes, then it clearly has political ramifications. The question is not one of policy itself but of how policy is used to transform power in politics.

    You can't make much of a distinction between "theater" and "substance".
    I was not asserting that the theatrics were irrelevant -- else they would not be so oft repeated. All of our politicos engage in such because it sways public opinion (even if only briefly) and public opinion in your favor is part of the currency of power.

    I was asserting that the more lasting impacts would be engendered by the specific policy acts undertaken -- and that this was the area receiving too little attention because the more "engaging" theatrics draws the attention.


    Next act is to draw all of the attention away from the temporary travel ban and related theatrics by nominating a Scalia-esque jurist to take the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Each new uproar is distracting from each preceding "protest" or concern -- and these are still being worked on when the media spotlight has passed on by.
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