Trump Thread

[CrossLOPER]

I'm still in "wait and see" mode on Trump.

Saying this at this point is like hoping that the train brakes will kick in while the train is still going 30 kph and about 20 feet away.

Most anything that comes out of his mouth or Twitter feed are pure idiocy, but so far, I like a good many of the policies that he's been pushing in practice (not in word).

Like banning people from entire nations from immigrating, devaluing protections of the environment and protected groups and fuck knows what else?

Rolling back Obama's regulatory overreach is good.

How? With an avalanche of unconstitutional reforms focused solely on making the US dirtier, meaner and more isolated and repressed?

Fast-tracking long stalled environmental reviews of pipelines is good.

Pipelines leak. A lot.

Limiting government funding of abortion is good.

Limiting availability of services to vulnerable groups is heinous.

Even the temporary immigration ban/increased vetting isn't terrible on it's face- though it's implementation appears to be rather incompetent.

Incompetent is a mild way to put it. Terminally retarded is a much better description. It does absolutely nothing positive and solves no problems. It created a massive amount of problems and is rapidly eradicating any positive view of the US.

I find if I actually look at what Trump's doing and ignore whatever is coming out of his mouth, he's actually ok so far. Though, I tend to think it may be due more to the advisors he is delegating power to, than through his own action/ideas. Because, I still think he's a twit.

He is CONSOLIDATING power into as few people as possible and his agents are threatening dissenting opinions. "Getting with the program" and "taking names" are thinly veiled threats that precede authoritarian moves.

Maybe you did miss one.

How in the fuck do you decide what a regulation is or what it includes? This is going to work out great.

Replacing:
Regulation 1: Org must do A.
Regulation 2: Org must do B.

Enacting:
Regulation 3: Org must do A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I...

There's also the plan to use CRAs to roll back many of Obama's "midnight" regulations that he rolled out last month. This is good.

Too bad it is going to be used against pollution regulations.

Fuck yeah Beijing skies!

[Xiahou]

Saying this at this point is like hoping that the train brakes will kick in while the train is still going 30 kph and about 20 feet away.

Ok...

Pipelines leak. A lot.

Not as much as railcars, tanker trucks or ships. They also explode a lot more than pipelines. A lot more.

Limiting availability of services to vulnerable groups is heinous.

Murdering defenseless children is heinous.

Incompetent is a mild way to put it. Terminally retarded is a much better description. It does absolutely nothing positive and solves no problems. It created a massive amount of problems and is rapidly eradicating any positive view of the US.

Incompetent in that it was rolled out with little to no warning for the agencies tasked with implementing it and then issuing contradictory statements on what to do with current visa/green card holders... first let them back in, then not, then let them back in. I guess they got it right 2/3 of the time.

He is CONSOLIDATING power into as few people as possible and his agents are threatening dissenting opinions. "Getting with the program" and "taking names" are thinly veiled threats that precede authoritarian moves.

Not so different from Obama's prosecution of whistleblowers and spying on members of the press, huh? See, this is a problem I have with the media and liberals in regards to Trump. They're completely losing their minds- the level of signal to noise is completely out off the charts. I think it's only a matter of time before Trump does something truly reprehensible- but with all the partisans wailing, gnashing their teeth and rending their clothes every time Trump farts, it's going to be much harder to see it and give it the coverage it deserves. Basically, it's going to be a 'boy who cried wolf' scenario. Trump doing something you disagree with is not the same as the second coming of Hitler. All your constant howling is doing is making it that much easier for him to brush you off when you have a more serious criticism.

[Strike For The South]

So much fuzz not enough facts. I can only assume everything I read is from some damnable KGB agent in some Moscow hovel. They get one pair of blue jeans and go right back to hating the capitalists.

in any event, I can't get behind a man who will leave those who collaborated with American forces out to dry. Those muslims did more for this country than Trump. It's unforgivable to pick up sticks and leave them high and dry.

[Kagemusha]

So much fuzz not enough facts. I can only assume everything I read is from some damnable KGB agent in some Moscow hovel. They get one pair of blue jeans and go right back to hating the capitalists.

in any event, I can't get behind a man who will leave those who collaborated with American forces out to dry. Those muslims did more for this country than Trump. It's unforgivable to pick up sticks and leave them high and dry.

You must have missed the memo, but Russia is now your buddy and Uncle Putin your best friend,while it is the dirty Chinese who are now source of all evil. The process of deciding which Muslims are good and which are bad is still ongoing, but its has been so for the last 50 years...

[CrossLOPER]

Ok...

Keep thinking about it. You're a smart guy.

Not as much as railcars, tanker trucks or ships. They also explode a lot more than pipelines. A lot more.

Would you like one on your property?

Murdering defenseless children is heinous.

Placing the value of a non-viable formation of cells over a living human being is insane. Who knows? They might be a threat. Better extinguish it before it turns 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuacCIchzuc

You want to talk about saving children? Start with the ones that have already been born.

Incompetent in that it was rolled out with little to no warning for the agencies tasked with implementing it and then issuing contradictory statements on what to do with current visa/green card holders... first let them back in, then not, then let them back in. I guess they got it right 2/3 of the time.

It shouldn't have been an executive order. At all. You don't make an executive order of this scale and complexity based on arbitrary and cloudy guidelines. Complex thinking is something that seems to elude this administration.

Not so different from Obama's prosecution of whistleblowers and spying on members of the press, huh? See, this is a problem I wibbilty bibbilty blobby boo

Only one post and you immediately go off on about liberals and Obama and whatnot, and then mention Hitler. One post and you are a victim of the liberal agenda. Unbelievable.

[Xiahou]

Only one post and you immediately go off on about liberals and Obama and whatnot, and then mention Hitler. One post and you are a victim of the liberal agenda. Unbelievable.

Nope, not a victim. I was trying to explain to you why you're making it impossible for me and others to take you seriously. There's no point in trying to engage in you in any sort of discourse.... so I won't.