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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    It was the buying part I do not understand.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-trump-cabinet

    Her family spent millions advancing Pence’s voucher program in Indiana. On Fox News on Sunday, Pence called it a “high honor” to cast the deciding vote in her confirmation.
    I assume that is meant.


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    Devos' Predecessors:

    Hufstedler -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, lawyer and jurist
    Bell -- Education doctorate, 12+ years classroom teaching experience
    Bennet -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, primarily a GOP operative
    Cavazos -- No education degree, 3-4 years of classroom teaching experience (college/med school), physiologist
    Alexander -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, lawyer and politician [parents were both educators in public schools]
    Riley -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, lawyer and politician
    Paige -- Doctorate in Physical Education, 7 years classroom teaching experience, football coach
    Spelling -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, political operative and specialized in education reform
    Duncan -- No education degree, limited classroom teaching experience, worked in education administration, mostly in underprivileged urban areas
    King -- Doctorate in education, 3 years classroom teaching experience, worked in education administration

    Devos -- No education degree, little or no classroom teaching experience, businesswoman and political operative

    [Bolded names had "silver spoon" upbringings by USA standards]



    All-in-all, her appointment is run of the mill. Truly skilled educators reaching the position are the exception. The post is typically a political sinecure.
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    So 78 unreported terror attacks. Hmm... because we all know that the press underplay terror attacks.

    Your president is actively seeking to increase fear to push through his agenda. You need to do something about it. If this is his opening play, it's very dangerous indeed.
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    A little look at immigration and crime:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...esearch-shows/

    Hint: If you want to live in a low crime area...move to a place with a high %'age of immigrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    A little look at immigration and crime:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...esearch-shows/

    Hint: If you want to live in a low crime area...move to a place with a high %'age of immigrants.
    And if you are anything like the UK, if you are freaked out by immigrants, you probably live in an area with very few of them.
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    Ah, another article that keeps it's evidence behind links to paywalls, what joy.

    How does the author know immigrants commit fewer crimes? Well you can find out by paying £28 for a day's access. Want to know why we're saying cities with high immigrant population haver lower crime rates? $35.95 please. Want to know the numbers of our own study? Pay up.

    As an aside, it's sad the Scientific American has been driven to outsourcing thier articles from theconversation.com.

    Times must be tough indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Ah, another article that keeps it's evidence behind links to paywalls, what joy.

    How does the author know immigrants commit fewer crimes? Well you can find out by paying £28 for a day's access. Want to know why we're saying cities with high immigrant population haver lower crime rates? $35.95 please. Want to know the numbers of our own study? Pay up.

    As an aside, it's sad the Scientific American has been driven to outsourcing thier articles from theconversation.com.

    Times must be tough indeed.
    Yes, paywalls are another contentious issue. If you really want to circumvent them there are various unauthorized databases operating from Russia (which you are enjoined from accessing).

    I know less about the underlying with the second point, but you should have noticed by now that online publications regularly host and repost each other's content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    A little look at immigration and crime:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...esearch-shows/

    Hint: If you want to live in a low crime area...move to a place with a high %'age of immigrants.
    I've never really gotten the impression that immigration from Mexico was strongly correlated with crime in the US, though here's a word of caution from the end of one of the scientific articles referred to:

    The question remains, however, why is it that after just one generation in the USA, the rate of involvement in crime among immigrants quickly rises to levels that mirror those of the native-born population? Is this pattern reflective of a general process of assimilating into the normative behavioral repertoire of mainstream American youth or, as segmented assimilation theory would suggest, are certain segments of the immigrant second generation are on a downward trajectory assimilating into cultures espousing deviant behavior? Future research should aim at uncovering the factors that buffer first generation immigrants from crime and relatedly, the factors that promote criminal behavior among the children of immigrants.
    For reference:

    While empirical studies have demonstrated an increase in crime among the children of immigrants compared to their foreign-born peers, the strategy of analyzing group averages may mask important deviations from the mean trajectory. The potential for, and perhaps expectations of, deviations from average trajectories is explicit in contemporary theory aimed at understanding immigrant processes. For instance, noting the enormous diversity found within today's immigrant population, Portes and Zhou (1993) proposed a theory of segmented assimilation. Whereas classic assimilation theory assumed a relatively uniform, linear process of adaptation and assimilation across successive immigrant generations (see, e.g. Warner & Srole, 1945), segmented assimilation theory posited that not all immigrants follow a pattern of ascendance up the social ladder. Although some (and perhaps most) immigrants follow the traditional pathway of upward mobility, others evidence no mobility or may even follow a pathway of downward mobility assimilating into a deviant lifestyle exhibiting low educational achievement, marginal occupational status, and involvement in crime (Portes & Rumbaut, 2006).
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