Trump Thread

[Idaho]

With the narcotics seizure rules, the police pretty much can decide if you are likely to be involved in the drugs industry, and then they can take anything that isn't nailed down.

In some counties the situation is getting extreme and is not necessarily drug related. Any local infraction incurs a large fine, which if you can't pay, results in more fines... Then prison. Consequently large numbers of young (mainly black) people owe the state lots of money they don't have and are in prison for trifling offences.

[Greyblades]

Such things can be contested, if you can prove in a court of law that what has been siezed was not aquired criminally or used in criminal activities (aka "that pile of cash they found under my bed that my job wouldnt pay me in 50 years of continuous labour isnt drug profits but inheritance, here's the will and bank records" or "I have that fertilizer because I am a farmer not a bomber, here's my licence") the property will be returned, fines cancelled or repaid and such misuse leaves the counties open for damage claims.

But this is an issue of the original law and the subject of another thread, what does this extension account for? Would it really extend to siezing people's houses while they are away protesting?

[Idaho]

Such things can be contested, if you can prove in a court of law that what has been siezed was not aquired criminally or used in criminal activities (aka "that pile of cash they found under my bed that my job wouldnt pay me in 50 years of continuous labour isnt drug profits but inheritance, here's the will and bank records" or "I have that fertilizer because I am a farmer not a bomber, here's my licence") the property will be returned, fines cancelled or repaid and such misuse leaves the counties open for damage claims.

But this is an issue of the original law and the subject of another thread, what does this extension account for? Would it really extend to siezing people's houses while they are away protesting?

Of course, because the people most affected by this not only have extensive resources to get legal help, but are also considered impartially by the US justice system.

Ah Tories... Things that affect people who don't look like them are irrelevant and uninteresting. While things that even hint at their privilege are beyond the pale and threaten the very fabric of the world

[Greyblades]

There are legal companies in america that offer "No win, No fee" rates on cases.
Again, what does this extension account for?

[Gilrandir]

When Trump was talking of Sweden, did he know anything beforehand?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/eu...ockholm-riots/
Or had he traveled with Doc Brown and Marty McFly into the future?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

When Trump was talking of Sweden, did he know anything beforehand?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/eu...ockholm-riots/
Or had he traveled with Doc Brown and Marty McFly into the future?

There are, actually, often minor disturbances in Sweden involving immigrants and the Police.

This doesn't look like it really qualified as a real "riot" in the French sense.

[Idaho]

There are legal companies in america that offer "No win, No fee" rates on cases.
Again, what does this extension account for?

You are right. The market can efficiently deal with this. The system works!

[Greyblades]

You are right. The market can efficiently deal with this. The system works!

Not much of a refutation.

Nor an answer to the question.

[Greyblades]

Doublepost.

[drone]

Here is a good Washington Post series on asset forfeiture from a couple of years ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...=.224f7ec3b968

I remember back when this got started during the heyday of the "War on Drugs", easy to pass laws when spun as cops seizing yachts and Ferraris from big time dealers. I think the general gist of the story for lawful citizens is, don't carry more than $200 in cash. If they take it, it's generally not worth your time/money to try to get it back. You may be innocent, but your property is guilty as hell!