Trump Thread

[HopAlongBunny]

Looks like a mixed bag for the polls on this:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...n-health-care/

A nurse at dialysis had the best comment:

"If I hear one more person say: Appeal Obamacare but don't touch my ACA; I'm gonna scream!"

[Greyblades]

Welp.



First the FISA requests now this, I look forward to seeing the doozy of stretch that'll be needed to sweep this one under the rug.

[Husar]

Cry me a river, noone cared when that Obama fascist regime basically stripped me naked and Trump continues that.
They might as well screw over some citizens to show how wonderful all this surveillance is. Snowden is a hero.
Trump shouldn't whine if he has nothing to hide.

[Husar]

Welp.



First the FISA requests now this, I look forward to seeing the doozy of stretch that'll be needed to sweep this one under the rug.

Heh, now that I happened upon another video, it turns out Trump was wiretapped but your video shows only half the truth because even this Nunes guy said Obama wasn't involved, and thereby sort of contradicted himself. So Trump was wiretapped and his claims about it are still bullhonkey as far as we know so far. What did you say in the other thread about reserving judgment? And while we're at it, the whole terror scare laws were enacted under Bush, Obama's terrible deed was using them more instead of repealing them.



Relevant part starts around 3:22.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

First effort to replace the ACA has been pulled by Speaker Ryan. United opposition from democrats and by ardent conservatives.

[a completely inoffensive name]

"This is a big fucking deal."

[Greyblades]

Saw that coming a mile off.

Heh, now that I happened upon another video, it turns out Trump was wiretapped but your video shows only half the truth because even this Nunes guy said Obama wasn't involved, and thereby sort of contradicted himself. So Trump was wiretapped and his claims about it are still bullhonkey as far as we know so far. What did you say in the other thread about reserving judgment? And while we're at it, the whole terror scare laws were enacted under Bush, Obama's terrible deed was using them more instead of repealing them.



Relevant part starts around 3:22.

I dont remember Nunes saying that, and I think I will stick with the unannotated videos thank you:



The best information is uncitated by the left's breed of talk show spin, spin you sneer at when it comes from the right, ah well.

As to Obama's involvement, this is not the dodge you think it is for it leaves either two possibilities: either Obama knew of it and you are wrong, or Obama wasnt aware and thus the US intelligence community spied upon Trump without the Obama's knowledge and consent.

So either Obama spied on his sucessor or he was incompetent and allowed the Intelligence community to become a loose cannon.

[HopAlongBunny]

I guess the Republicans got tired of winning:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN16V149

They had almost a decade to get it together...now they hold all the levers, but still have no plan.

[Montmorency]

Haven't we been over this? The matter under discussion isn't that Trump was spied upon, but that Trump and associates interacted with people who were being spied upon. We already had discussion on this subject for weeks. As far as we know the conduct of intelligence agencies was fully appropriate and legal, whereas not so for Nunes' conduct here.

[HopAlongBunny]

As far as I can tell the "Trump Associates" were bycatch.
The targets of surveillance were Russians; who they were talking to turned out to be Americans.
Perfectly legitimate; the controversy (if there is one) is pure deflection.

[Husar]

I dont remember Nunes saying that, and I think I will stick with the unannotated videos thank you:

[video]

The best information is uncitated by the left's breed of talk show spin, spin you sneer at when it comes from the right, ah well.

As to Obama's involvement, this is not the dodge you think it is for it leaves either two possibilities: either Obama knew of it and you are wrong, or Obama wasnt aware and thus the US intelligence community spied upon Trump without the Obama's knowledge and consent.

So either Obama spied on his sucessor or he was incompetent and allowed the Intelligence community to become a loose cannon.

Well, you're obviously impersonating the alt-right spin on this because you keep linking to one interview when he was clearly talking to reporters at least twice. The only unfortunate thing is that I can't find a full video of the interview(s) where he stands in front of the white house, except for ones where your alt-right friends cut out the part where he says Obama's involvement cannot be ruled out.

Your terrible bias becomes clear when you say I'd be wrong if Obama knew of it when I didn't claim that Obama didn't know a thing. I said we're none the wiser and when there are rumors you don't like, you say we should reserve judgment, yet here you are gloating over Nunes being vague since it's a rumor you like.
Or you can just take what Monty just said (I hadn't read about it before) and ask yourself why Trump would be in contact with foreigners who are under surveillance? Russians perhaps?

[Strike For The South]

Eat shit Paul Ryan

[Husar]

Eat shit Paul Ryan

Are you referring to this?

[Greyblades]

Your terrible bias becomes clear when you say I'd be wrong if Obama knew of it when I didn't claim that Obama didn't know a thing.

Heh, now that I happened upon another video, it turns out Trump was wiretapped but your video shows only half the truth because even this Nunes guy said Obama wasn't involved, and thereby sort of contradicted himself.

Just stop. Tell us where Nunes said that Obama wasnt involved or cease your endless dodging.

Yet here you are gloating over Nunes being vague since it's a rumor you like.

Nunes is vague about Obama's involvment he is not vague about what he believes happened.

[Husar]

Just stop. Tell us where Nunes said that Obama wasnt involved or cease your endless dodging.

Post #511, 3:54. It's very clear that Obama wasn't involved in tapping Trump's phone because Trump's phones weren't tapped.

The part where Obama may have been involved in wiretapping refers to the wiretapping of other peoples' phones. If Trump calls them, his voice may be recorded, but again, you should then ask why Trump calls foreign criminals under surveillance. If Nunes isn't vague, why are you still trying to blame Obama?