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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Proxies were a reasonable choice for both. USA casualty tolerance has always been lower than many, and the USSR lost 1/8 of its population between 1938 and 1946. I've heard some argue that the Russian population has still not truly recovered from that culling.
    USSR population =/= Russian population
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    USSR population =/= Russian population
    No, but ethnic Russians under the USSR during that period were NOT spared much. Yes, Ukraine had it worse per capita and some of the 'stans also, but it is NOT like the Russians were way better. Stalin fed everyone into the grinder to win.
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    Trump briefly looks "Presidential" and "strong" and it is something he can do to stand up to Russia that is superficially good but meaningless. Russia can continue to do what it wants. Hell, if hypothetically if every runway was destroyed Russian planes would still be enough. Until every runway is levelled along with infrastructure and the Rebels are given SAMs it will at best impede.

    Putin can even get all shouty and both sides can look great to their admirers - a strong man standoff.

    The USA will struggle to have a follow up that will sort out the quagmire - Russia is lucky as all they want is warm water ports and specific influence with no interest in the locals. The West has such high standards they are all but impossible since most of the locals are unclear what a resolution looks like.

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    The West has such high standards they are all but impossible since most of the locals are unclear what a resolution looks like.
    To make like Abbe Sieyès in the Terror.
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    Remove Assad + ??? = Problem solved?
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    Remove Assad + ??? = Problem solved?
    Dysfunctional democracy or caliphate.

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    Bringing Hitler into the mix is generally a losing proposition.
    Sanitizing Hitler is not usually the choice of reasonable people.
    Sean Spicer hits it out of the park:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...weapons-237116
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