Trump Thread

[HopAlongBunny]

G.B. Trudeau illustrates our new reality:

[rory_20_uk]

G.B. Trudeau illustrates our new reality:

"New reality"? Always been this way - as WW1 kicked off, in Britain, the German Royal Family went to the Queen to be rebranded and when America joined in, the history of Germans in America was airbrushed out and has never been returned.

Gerry Adams, criminal terrorist or Peace Prize winner?

Is it Alexander the Great, or Alexander the Devil?

[HopAlongBunny]

"New reality"? Always been this way

Balloons for rory!

[HopAlongBunny]

The Trump administration apparently mis-placed a carrier group: https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...arrier/523458/
Fortunately, when it comes to a punitive strike against N.Korea it will probably come from Missouri:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...t-n-korea.html

[HopAlongBunny]

A good look at Americas' fascination with things that go BOOM!; preferably somewhere else and if at all possible on brown people:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...074829028.html

[Strike For The South]

Americas addiction to war? As opposed to whom? The grandstanding western nations who generally approve, publicly or tacitly?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Americas addiction to war? As opposed to whom? The grandstanding western nations who generally approve, publicly or tacitly?

Fair point Strike. I'm imagining a large 12-step meeting with damn few sponsors. Should be good coffee though.

[Greyblades]

Yeah, Assad should have dropped the gas in a shower instead of a container to score more humanism points.

Or maybe the distinction was that Hitler "didn't use it on his own people" in the sense that communists, jews, gypsies and the disabled were not "his people", but then we've just reached a new level of despicable and racist. Or maybe he meant "Hitler didn't use it on the frontlines but only at home", to clarify this, Spicer said "Assad dropped it on innocent...", so what is his real point? Hitler didn't gas innocent people? It's better to use it at home than on the frontlines? Or just that the use was technically different, in which case I wonder why exactly Assad is worse then? Why does it even matter?

I havent defended his words, I've said that when presented with such an easy victory the left wing media ruined it by lying, as they seem compulsed to do.

I've heard people say Trump is a master of giving his opponents enough rope to hang themselves, I see it more that his opponants thus far could suffocate themselves on the very idea of a rope.

G.B. Trudeau illustrates our new reality:

And husar calls me the propagandist. This post is sublime; a true masterpiece.

An idol for glass-housed stone-throwers everywhere.

[Husar]

I havent defended his words, I've said that when presented with such an easy victory the left wing media ruined it by lying, as they seem compulsed to do.

I've heard people say Trump is a master of giving his opponents enough rope to hang themselves, I see it more that his opponants thus far could suffocate themselves on the very idea of a rope.

Good to know, I'm sure the rope part is not so relevant because Trump doesn't even know what a rope is. (that is a joke! please do not think that I actually believe this, please! I know you knew that I was going to claim it is a joke, but it really is, please! Also, please!)
If you think people go too far with wild accusations, how do you rate Trump having been on the forefront of the birther thing for years?
Didn't he then even deny it during the campaign? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-movement.html
Why didn't he hang on that rope from the birther craziness?

What I see here is a double standard, and I'm not even denying that the democrats have crazies who believe Trump eats babies or so. I'm asking where were you when Alex Jones cried about the Feds under Obama stealing peoples' children at the airport?

And husar calls me the propagandist. This post is sublime; a true masterpiece.

You know, you can both be propagandists!
I don't quite get the point of the comic unless it's just the obvious joke about Trump's lies in a way I don't find very funny.
I don't even disagree with you that Trump's opponents often go too far, but then again that's something they have in common with his supporters. If you really want to compare everyone who doesn't like Trump with the craziest leftist shills you can find, I'm going to call you AlexJonesBlades from now on.

[Greyblades]

Trump Tells Foreign Leaders That Nafta Can Stay for Now

Good to know, I'm sure the rope part is not so relevant because Trump doesn't even know what a rope is. (that is a joke! please do not think that I actually believe this, please! I know you knew that I was going to claim it is a joke, but it really is, please! Also, please!)
If you think people go too far with wild accusations, how do you rate Trump having been on the forefront of the birther thing for years?
Didn't he then even deny it during the campaign? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-movement.html
Why didn't he hang on that rope from the birther craziness?

He did. Trump was the left's punching bag for a couple of years over the birther routine. I dare say it is what inspired him to play hard to get with his tax returns despite turning out to have no more to hide than Obama did.

Thing is though he relented instead of clinging to the fantasy into insanity. Trump has spent 40 years building a solid brand so being wrong on something wasnt going to take him down and was forgotten after he massacred the repiblican hopefuls and started butting heads with Clinton.

What I see here is a double standard, and I'm not even denying that the democrats have crazies who believe Trump eats babies or so. I'm asking where were you when Alex Jones cried about the Feds under Obama stealing peoples' children at the airport?

I was alongside you mocking them, remember? Pissing on Fox news and nodding to daily show and john oliver skits was my bread and butter up until they turned on my demographic in 2014.

Getting a taste of my own medicine made me realize what a blind jackass I was being molded into. I still find myself slipping into the habit of disingenuity at times.

You know, you can both be propagandists!

Putting effort into my disagreement with your position doesnt make me a propagandist. When I care enough to dedicate time in debate I actively avoid parroting other people's arguments and try to use evidence from sources that arent right wing, just to avoid remotely proving the accusation.

Then it comes anyway and I wonder why I bother.

I don't quite get the point of the comic unless it's just the obvious joke about Trump's lies in a way I don't find very funny.

It's a dig on people for parroting propaganda outlets instead of forming thier own ideas, which is exquisitely rich coming from a man who's primary post format is a a snide comment and a link to a trashy left wing blog like salon or thedailybeast and actual national propaganda outlets like al jazeera.

I don't even disagree with you that Trump's opponents often go too far, but then again that's something they have in common with his supporters. If you really want to compare everyone who doesn't like Trump with the craziest leftist shills you can find, I'm going to call you AlexJonesBlades from now on.

Craziest but loud and far reaching, you dont ignore the glen becks you mock them and admonish fox for entertaining his lies.

The guardian and cnn are the epitome of the left wing media and entertained the lie without contesting it and I admonish them accordingly.

[Husar]

He did. Trump was the left's punching bag for a couple of years over the birther routine. I dare say it is what inspired him to play hard to get with his tax returns despite turning out to have no more to hide than Obama did.

When did that turn out? Did I miss something? AFAIK he only released some old tax returns from long before his campaign.

Thing is though he relented instead of clinging to the fantasy into insanity. Trump has spent 40 years building a solid brand so being wrong on something wasnt going to take him down and was forgotten after he massacred the repiblican hopefuls and started butting heads with Clinton.

A fake university scam makes a solid brand now? Perhaps in a world of gullible, badly-educated people...Which is really more sad than funny.

I was alongside you mocking them, remember? Pissing on Fox news and nodding to daily show and john oliver skits was my bread and butter up until they turned on my demographic in 2014.

How exactly did they turn on your demographic? What is your demographic anyway?

Putting effort into my disagreement with your position doesnt make me a propagandist. When I care enough to dedicate time in debate I actively avoid parroting other people's arguments and try to use evidence from sources that arent right wing, just to avoid remotely proving the accusation.

I called you a propagandist due to the way in which you sometimes write very questionable statements that reeks of the way propaganda is written. You know, writes like a propagandist, sounds like a propagandist, reads like a propagandist, must be a propagandist.
The good old gut-feeling that Trump voters used when they voted. As long as it feels right, I know it is right.

It's a dig on people for parroting propaganda outlets instead of forming thier own ideas, which is exquisitely rich coming from a man who's primary post format is a a snide comment and a link to a trashy left wing blog like salon or thedailybeast and actual national propaganda outlets like al jazeera.

Al Jazeera was agreed upon this board to be a reliable news source by both the left and right wing members around the time of the Arab Spring movement. What happened that it has to be called something else now? Were they too nice to refugees?

Craziest but loud and far reaching, you dont ignore the glen becks you mock them and admonish fox for entertaining his lies.

The guardian and cnn are the epitome of the left wing media and entertained the lie without contesting it and I admonish them accordingly.

I don't watch CNN, so can you show me something where they reach Glenn Beck levels of crazy? The news I find on their website usually read relatively neutral to me. I don't even think all of FoxNews is super crazy, even O'Reilly could sound like a reasonable human being outside of his show there.
So I question that Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and CNN are on the same level of crazy and assume you're exaggerating here for effect.

The Sean Spicer thing you linked is a terrible example because what Sean Spicer said was dumb even if you know what he meant. The only person who would think Hitler wasn't as bad as Assad just because he didn't gas German aryans in allied-occupied territory is a racist idiot. The comparison of two dictators based on what you find to be the more horrible way of killing humans is somewhat childish and relativist anyway.
These arguments tend to never go anywhere.

[Gilrandir]

Simpsons do Trump again:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...n-office-video

[HopAlongBunny]

The press might have "got it wrong" on Trump initially; are they any better now that he's king? Apparently not:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...t-trump-215049